In Reply to: Not better sounding but more musical, ANYONE can hear the difference, even you! Just listen in posted by Teresa on April 6, 2003 at 18:45:19:
Technical journals will tell you NOTHING about musical qualities, as this something the suits cannot measure.>> The suits don't do any measurements, Teresa. Hard working scientists do the measurements. While tests may not tell you everything, there certainly are correlations between perceived musical quality as heard by a panel of listeners and the various battery of measurements which follow. The entire field of psychoacoustics is based on this. There are subjective tests as well, where a MOS (mean opinion score) is produced by a panel of pre-qualified expert listeners (see ITU BS1116). The MPEG committee, Fraunhofer labs, etc. all perform these tests and publish them in technical journals.
If I read these journals I wouldn't be enjoying my LPs or Tubes.
>> Sure you would. Since you claim that the journals don't tell you anything about music why would they influence your decision? See your previous statement. Anyway, you think scientists knock LPs and tubes and simply dismiss them altogether? Wake up! Why then do organizations like AES and ASA still publish research about their properties, sound quality, etc.?
Science cannot explain music, period!
>>You provide no qualification to your claim. Why should the reader of your post believe this?
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Follow Ups
- Please prove your claims. - EnuffzEnuff 20:18:34 04/06/03 (15)
- nothing to prove: Music is an ART is cannot be measured it can only be enjoyed. - Teresa 22:15:45 04/06/03 (0)
- Subjective claims cannot really be proven... - oscar 20:45:36 04/06/03 (13)
- Re: Subjective claims cannot really be proven... - Martin says 02:31:32 04/07/03 (12)
- eloquent and absurd - tunenut 10:58:24 04/07/03 (3)
- Eloquent and succinct . . . - Martin says 03:13:08 04/08/03 (1)
- yes I know.. - tunenut 09:36:49 04/08/03 (0)
- agreed go to a live acoustic concert, come home listen to an Audiophile LP on a decent Vinyl rig - Teresa 18:29:57 04/07/03 (0)
- So why does soundstage collapse on CD ? - SnaggS 06:54:04 04/07/03 (6)
- Not really... - MCH 08:40:58 04/07/03 (4)
- Soundstaging -- speakers & CD source . . . - Martin says 02:36:09 04/08/03 (0)
- MCH, if I may ask...what are those great speakers? (nt) - Eric LeRouge 10:49:26 04/07/03 (2)
- Re: MCH, if I may ask...what are those great speakers? (nt) - MCH 22:46:11 04/08/03 (1)
- Cool (nt) - Eric LeRouge 12:03:46 04/09/03 (0)
- No "debunk" I'm afraid . . . . . - Martin says 07:35:29 04/07/03 (0)
- Cool quote (nt) - Eric LeRouge 02:43:18 04/07/03 (0)