Figure 4: Output of WMP (no Peak Extend) - Christine Tham

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Topic - "Universal Players" and HDCD - townsend 05:38:09 12/08/05 (82)

Re: "Universal Players" and HDCD - Dead Head 12:12:55 12/09/05 (0)

Re: "Universal Players" and HDCD - mark111 23:47:41 12/08/05 (0)

Re: "Universal Players" and HDCD - racerguy 12:33:14 12/08/05 (76)

HDCD "Peak Extend" - Christine Tham 18:50:27 12/10/05 (75)

You are missing the point - Charles Hansen 20:20:38 12/11/05 (71)

No Charles, you are simply repeating what I said but not quite correctly - Christine Tham 00:47:56 12/12/05 (70)

HDCD technology was originally developed by Keith Johnson and Pflash Pflaumer - Teresa 18:32:36 12/12/05 (69)

It's completely irrelevant who "developed" HDCD ... - Christine Tham 00:11:02 12/13/05 (68)

No it's not... - Frank.. 03:31:47 12/13/05 (67)

Still irrelevant - Christine Tham 13:43:25 12/13/05 (66)

Retrofitting HDCD to existing DACs & standalone HDCD decoders - gregory battaglia 19:01:59 12/25/05 (0)

List of HDCD-equipped DACs - gregory battaglia 18:49:22 12/25/05 (1)

The AlpineF#1Status outboard processor - head_unit 00:08:03 01/25/06 (0)

Re: Still irrelevant - The Sound Guy 17:21:10 12/13/05 (62)

Do an internet search (nt) - Christine Tham 18:43:55 12/13/05 (61)

Give real links - The Sound Guy 20:57:13 12/13/05 (60)

i don't care whether you believe or not. do your own research (nt) - Christine Tham 21:29:50 12/13/05 (59)

According to Microsoft themselves... HDCD process hasn't changed. See link. Whats your point?... - Steve Cortez 04:44:34 12/17/05 (58)

Read very carefully - Christine Tham 13:31:19 12/17/05 (57)

Wrong again - Charles Hansen 15:54:33 12/17/05 (56)

For reference, can you educate me on exactly which part of my post is "wrong again"? - Christine Tham 22:58:24 12/17/05 (0)

Yikes! - Christine Tham 22:38:27 12/17/05 (54)

You've COMPLETELY missed Charles' main retort on your "Peak Extend" argument... - Steve Cortez 01:31:21 12/18/05 (53)

No - Charles is just plain wrong, or at least very self serving - Christine Tham 12:08:43 12/18/05 (52)

blah blah blah... the only one PUSHING a point is you... - Steve Cortez 15:28:54 12/18/05 (51)

why are you so angry? - Christine Tham 22:12:04 12/18/05 (50)

You are way off base - Charles Hansen 12:01:38 12/19/05 (49)

No Charles, it is you who is off base - Christine Tham 15:21:21 12/19/05 (48)

Reading comprehension an issue? - Charles Hansen 21:26:14 12/19/05 (47)

Re: Reading comprehension an issue? - Martin419 08:23:52 12/21/05 (0)

Wow - racerguy 07:11:29 12/21/05 (1)

I stand corrected - Charles Hansen 09:48:09 12/21/05 (0)

Maybe you could do with a crash course on how to use search as well? - Christine Tham 23:11:37 12/19/05 (43)

You want an apology? - Charles Hansen 22:17:21 12/20/05 (38)

Perhaps it is you who has reading comprehension issues? - Christine Tham 00:59:31 12/22/05 (18)

This is just silly - Charles Hansen 09:08:41 12/22/05 (17)

Who is being silly? - Christine Tham 11:49:06 12/22/05 (16)

That would be you - Charles Hansen 20:27:20 12/22/05 (15)

Re: That would be you - Christine Tham 15:23:38 12/23/05 (14)

Re: That would be you - Charles Hansen 20:14:53 12/23/05 (13)

Re: That would be you - Christine Tham 00:01:07 12/24/05 (12)

Figure 3: Digital rip of an HDCD without Peak Extend - Christine Tham 00:09:39 12/24/05 (9)

Figure 4: Output of WMP (no Peak Extend) - Christine Tham 00:11:08 12/24/05 (8)

By the way, here are some stats on the non decoded vs decoded outputs - Christine Tham 00:28:38 12/24/05 (7)

Thanks for posting these graphs - Charles Hansen 10:51:35 12/24/05 (6)

Re: Thanks for posting these graphs - Christine Tham 12:12:00 12/24/05 (5)

This is just silly - Charles Hansen 14:46:22 12/24/05 (4)

HDCD is defined by the patent, not the implementation - Christine Tham 22:38:00 12/24/05 (3)

Oh, that's right... - Charles Hansen 13:06:23 12/25/05 (2)

And your point is? - Christine Tham 15:31:48 01/03/06 (1)

Yep, yep, and yep. - Charles Hansen 19:43:56 01/03/06 (0)

Figure 1: Digital rip of an HDCD with Peak Extend - Christine Tham 00:04:18 12/24/05 (1)

Figure 2: WMP decoded output of the track - Christine Tham 00:06:28 12/24/05 (0)

Charles you do owe Christine an apology, because you are dead wrong. Christine has it 100% correct. - Teresa 06:51:43 12/21/05 (18)

Hmmm... - Charles Hansen 09:34:25 12/21/05 (17)

Charles I have found some links to help you understand HDCD better: - Teresa 19:38:30 12/21/05 (3)

Re: Charles I have found some links to help you understand HDCD better: - Charles Hansen 20:07:24 12/21/05 (2)

Thanks for the links Charles, it will take a while to read all of these. - Teresa 20:46:09 12/21/05 (1)

You're welcome - Charles Hansen 22:00:32 12/21/05 (0)

Still waiting for that apology ... - Christine Tham 16:52:05 12/21/05 (12)

You are still confused - Charles Hansen 19:52:19 12/21/05 (11)

Re: You are still confused - Christine Tham 00:01:40 12/22/05 (10)

Taking a page from W - Charles Hansen 09:11:58 12/22/05 (9)

Re: Taking a page from W - Christine Tham 11:54:11 12/22/05 (8)

I guess we agree on one thing - Charles Hansen 20:03:13 12/22/05 (7)

Re: I guess we agree on one thing - Christine Tham 15:25:13 12/23/05 (6)

Re: I guess we agree on one thing - Charles Hansen 20:16:22 12/23/05 (5)

Re: I guess we agree on one thing - Christine Tham 00:38:47 12/24/05 (4)

Once again you are wrong - Charles Hansen 11:00:41 12/24/05 (3)

I don't think you know the meaning of the word "wrong", since you are not applying it correctly - Christine Tham 12:25:41 12/24/05 (2)

You have gone beyond obstinence... - Charles Hansen 18:49:44 12/24/05 (1)

Sorry, but you haven't really given any evidence - Christine Tham 22:47:18 12/24/05 (0)

I did find the HDCD patent (#5,479,168) - Christine Tham 23:30:02 12/19/05 (3)

Christine -- give it a rest. You were interesting once. nt. - Martin419 02:58:46 12/21/05 (2)

I'm sure Christine will as soon as Charles apologizes. She is 100% correct BTW. (nt) - Teresa 07:00:12 12/21/05 (1)

Thanks, Teresa (nt) - Christine Tham 17:03:58 12/21/05 (0)

Christine you really should try an HDCD from Reference Recordings, Acoustic Disc, Linn or FIM. - Teresa 23:09:23 12/10/05 (0)

Re: HDCD "Peak Extend" - The Sound Guy 21:47:02 12/10/05 (1)

Unfortunately, no, other than by listening or the really hard way ... - Christine Tham 21:57:42 12/10/05 (0)

If your player doesn't decode HDCD you can buy an HDCD D/A converter - Teresa 07:48:56 12/08/05 (2)

As does the Panasonic 77's...NT - JoeKool 23:57:47 12/09/05 (0)

Thanks for all your replies (nt) - townsend 06:04:16 12/09/05 (0)

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Figure 4: Output of WMP (no Peak Extend) - Christine Tham 00:11:08 12/24/05 (8)

By the way, here are some stats on the non decoded vs decoded outputs - Christine Tham 00:28:38 12/24/05 (7)

Thanks for posting these graphs - Charles Hansen 10:51:35 12/24/05 (6)

Re: Thanks for posting these graphs - Christine Tham 12:12:00 12/24/05 (5)

This is just silly - Charles Hansen 14:46:22 12/24/05 (4)

HDCD is defined by the patent, not the implementation - Christine Tham 22:38:00 12/24/05 (3)

Oh, that's right... - Charles Hansen 13:06:23 12/25/05 (2)

And your point is? - Christine Tham 15:31:48 01/03/06 (1)

Yep, yep, and yep. - Charles Hansen 19:43:56 01/03/06 (0)