In Reply to: Wrong conclusion... posted by Frank.. on June 14, 2004 at 02:03:06:
first of all it's *relative dynamics*, NOT "dynamic range".you can't compare the difference between minimum and maximum RMS due to DSD ultrasonic noise.
the best comparison is done by looking at the actual waveforms.
take any part of the wave form.
look at two points at the wave form - one below -20dB and one close to maximum (say around -3dB).
adjust the relative amplitude of the waveforms on the DVD-A and SACD recordings by making sure the smaller point (below -20dB) on both are roughly equal (to the nearest dB will do).
now compare the larger point. This will always be higher on the SACD recording than on the DVD-A recording. as i am actually comparing the waveform, DSD ultrasonic noise is not an issue.
this is what i mean by relative dynamics. it has nothing to do with dynamic range.
PS - And oh, by the way, on the recordings done on the DVD-2200, the CD shows the greatest difference between maximum and minimum RMS - far greater than either SACD or DVD-A. Using your "logic" - CD has the best dynamic range :-) that shows you how much ultrasonic noise (even on DVD-A) influences the results.
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- no ... you are wrong - reread my article more carefully - Christine Tham 02:13:16 06/14/04 (19)
- Do the math... - Frank.. 03:07:54 06/14/04 (18)
- Re: Do the math... - Christine Tham 03:31:44 06/14/04 (17)
- Dolby - The Sound Guy 05:43:09 06/15/04 (1)
- Re: Dolby - Christine Tham 14:50:07 06/15/04 (0)
- Re: Do the math... - Frank.. 04:46:40 06/14/04 (14)
- Re: Do the math... - Christine Tham 05:19:03 06/14/04 (13)
- Re: Do the math... - Frank.. 06:05:30 06/14/04 (12)
- Did you actually read the AES paper? (nt) - Christine Tham 06:25:20 06/14/04 (11)
- Not yet.... - Frank.. 07:38:44 06/14/04 (10)
- Try reading the AES paper before posting any further (nt) - Christine Tham 14:05:33 06/14/04 (8)
- Found it. - Frank.. 06:24:13 06/15/04 (7)
- Thanks for taking the effort to find it and read it - Christine Tham 16:40:58 06/15/04 (6)
- Re: Thanks for taking the effort to find it and read it - Frank.. 01:01:42 06/16/04 (5)
- Re: Thanks for taking the effort to find it and read it - Dan Banquer 02:18:32 06/16/04 (1)
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- Re: Thanks for taking the effort to find it and read it - Christine Tham 01:29:10 06/16/04 (2)
- Believe what you like... - Frank.. 03:11:53 06/16/04 (1)
- Re: Believe what you like... - Christine Tham 04:43:44 06/16/04 (0)
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