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In Reply to: ahhh the arrogance :-)... i know you fancy yourself as some sort of Guru... posted by NonA on April 27, 2004 at 07:00:04:
accusations of arrogance in a post dripping with same (e.g. "lets start slow an' easy so that you understand"). There is no basis for debate. In your experience, SACD sounds bad, apparently verging on terrible. In the experience of others, it sounds fine. Unless you sit in the same room listening to the same thing, how is debate going to resolve this? Even then, there can be disagreement, I've seen it happen. To each their own.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - is dvd-audio superior? - astolfo 04:04:04 04/25/04 (94)
- I would suggest going to Hi-Rez Highway... - tunenut 10:22:26 04/25/04 (1)
- very true - relentless99 23:05:55 04/25/04 (0)
- depending on what "superior" refer to and what format you compare with..yes it is... - NonA 08:36:27 04/25/04 (91)
- Some of your statements are a little misleading - vettracer 18:19:33 04/26/04 (38)
- what i would stress out ... - NonA 06:36:56 04/27/04 (0)
- Unfortunately so are some of yours ... - Christine Tham 21:07:33 04/26/04 (36)
- ahhh the arrogance :-)... i know you fancy yourself as some sort of Guru... - NonA 07:00:04 04/27/04 (35)
- Re: ahhh the arrogance :-)... i know you fancy yourself as some sort of Guru... - robert young 19:56:08 04/29/04 (0)
- Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 13:57:39 04/27/04 (31)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - andy_c 21:43:12 04/27/04 (4)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 23:07:00 04/27/04 (3)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - andy_c 20:14:41 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 20:27:20 04/28/04 (1)
- with the proper signal conditioning... - NonA 07:39:18 04/29/04 (0)
- I would stop reading Pyramix and Meitner propaganda... - NonA 16:35:18 04/27/04 (2)
- your response is a perfect example of why i didn't bother to post in the first place :-) (nt) - Christine Tham 16:39:03 04/27/04 (1)
- I think you're confused....nt - NonA 17:52:25 04/27/04 (0)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Frank. 15:04:20 04/27/04 (14)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 16:33:12 04/27/04 (13)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Frank. 01:14:02 04/28/04 (11)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 02:56:08 04/28/04 (10)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Frank. 03:28:25 04/28/04 (9)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 03:42:34 04/28/04 (8)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Frank 05:04:06 04/28/04 (7)
- incidentally, if you ever do record a live symphony orchestra ... - Christine Tham 14:59:35 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Christine Tham 13:48:17 04/28/04 (0)
- You're right, she sounds like some inexperienced low level technician.... - NonA 06:43:50 04/28/04 (4)
- above post is mere vituperation of no substantive value (NT) - tunenut 11:22:13 04/28/04 (3)
- as opposed to your lab dog bark anytime you feel the need to defend your ilk... - NonA 11:46:37 04/28/04 (2)
- ditto (NT) - tunenut 13:34:48 04/28/04 (1)
- WOOF! :-) nt - NonA 07:41:53 04/29/04 (0)
- "....if you can predict what the loudest part of the signal will be. in a real life situation, you often can't..." wrong - NonA 17:10:15 04/27/04 (0)
- Re: Actually, no, i don't consider myself a Guru at all ... - Frank 14:40:32 04/27/04 (7)
- yes it does - Christine Tham 16:08:45 04/27/04 (6)
- Re: yes it does - Frank. 00:27:33 04/28/04 (5)
- Re: yes it does - Christine Tham 13:49:12 04/28/04 (4)
- Re: yes it does - Frank. 05:24:03 04/29/04 (3)
- Re: yes it does - Christine Tham 13:39:29 04/29/04 (2)
- Ted's reply proofes nothing. - Frank. 03:00:37 04/30/04 (1)
- Re: Ted's reply proofes nothing. - Christine Tham 16:58:57 04/30/04 (0)
- ironic... - tunenut 10:00:37 04/27/04 (1)
- I see you got the point (about the arrogance)...maybe she will... - NonA 10:23:14 04/27/04 (0)
- "the softened, edgeless, forgiving, compressed, sand-brushed, fake cymbal, sound out of SACD." - Methos 20:31:11 04/25/04 (30)
- ive heard SACD over different systems cant rationalize its failure by blaming the gear..nt - NonA 05:38:27 04/26/04 (29)
- Any system on which SACD sounds as crappy as you claim it does, has serious issues. - Methos 08:57:02 04/26/04 (28)
- Re: Any system on which SACD sounds as crappy as you claim it does, has serious issues. - Martin419 09:03:55 04/26/04 (27)
- Yes, it could have been...if you and NonA were doing the listening, and you were told which encoding method was DSD... - Methos 09:08:08 04/26/04 (26)
- dont monkeys have good hearing :)?...like i said, the problems with SACD go beyond.. - NonA 09:29:49 04/26/04 (25)
- Has SACD's claims of greater dynamic range be proven? - Duilawyer 17:56:08 04/26/04 (24)
- Re: Has SACD's claims of greater dynamic range be proven? - Frank. 23:41:26 04/26/04 (23)
- somebody was eating a sandwich in the back of the hall... - tunenut 17:40:40 04/27/04 (0)
- that's the venue ambience, not noise - Christine Tham 03:19:09 04/27/04 (21)
- Nice try. - Frank. 05:45:57 04/27/04 (20)
- yes, but was the pcm from a live recording ... - Christine Tham 06:36:11 04/27/04 (19)
- It's included in the format. - Frank. 10:45:19 04/27/04 (18)
- well, think about it ... - Christine Tham 14:03:05 04/27/04 (14)
- Re: well, think about it ... - Frank. 14:32:31 04/27/04 (13)
- no - but i don't believe the "sacd is inherently flawed" crap either :-) (nt) - Christine Tham 16:37:19 04/27/04 (12)
- Why not take the same experiment? - Eric LeRouge 01:59:53 04/28/04 (11)
- PS. Gain miust be applied before AD conversion... - Frank 05:06:39 04/28/04 (4)
- Sorry, I missed that part. - Eric LeRouge 05:45:57 04/28/04 (3)
- Re: Sorry, I missed that part. - Frank. 07:11:49 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: Sorry, I missed that part. - Eric LeRouge 07:42:28 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: Sorry, I missed that part. - Frank. 10:17:56 04/28/04 (0)
- what experiment? - Christine Tham 03:47:41 04/28/04 (5)
- We have no way of telling the results - Eric LeRouge 05:24:47 04/28/04 (2)
- will be interested in your results... - tunenut 11:00:09 04/28/04 (1)
- You need some serious help... - Frank. 01:50:31 04/29/04 (1)
- Show some public results where this has been done... - Frank. 04:28:35 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: Show some public results where this has been done... - Christine Tham 13:57:19 04/28/04 (0)
- Interesting!!! - Eric LeRouge 12:33:03 04/27/04 (2)
- Well... - Frank. 12:46:07 04/27/04 (1)
- Re: Well... - Eric LeRouge 01:25:08 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: depending on what "superior" refer to and what format you compare with..yes it is... - John Kotches 11:26:24 04/25/04 (1)
- true that...but those are multibit instead of single and so have lower noise levels, thx nt - NonA 11:39:25 04/25/04 (0)
- ".. Sony came out with SACD *exaclty* 20 yrs after their licensing rights on CD expired)." - Duilawyer 08:55:07 04/25/04 (18)
- so that would be 2020 - Metralla 03:44:06 04/27/04 (1)
- see below... - NonA 06:18:31 04/27/04 (0)
- ca 1980 for CD and ca 2000 for SACD... - NonA 10:31:56 04/25/04 (15)
- **** WARNING -- If you have more than 2 years of basic education, SKIP THE REST OF THIS THREAD **** NT - Eric LeRouge 09:50:32 04/27/04 (2)
- Does Kindergarten count or do you mean 1st and 2nd grade? (nt) - vettracer 13:57:27 04/27/04 (1)
- 1st grade will do (nt :) - Eric LeRouge 05:38:51 04/28/04 (0)
- Sony's rights to CD did not expire in 1980. nt - Duilawyer 20:26:15 04/25/04 (11)
- no it started in 1980 finished in 2000 with intro of SACD....nt - NonA 05:15:16 04/26/04 (10)
- AND THEREFORE SACD did not arrive 20 years after Sony's - Duilawyer 07:16:21 04/26/04 (9)
- Methinks you are missing the point, DUI . . . . - Martin419 07:44:12 04/26/04 (2)
- I am NOT missing the point. The claim was wrong! - Duilawyer 18:56:04 04/26/04 (0)
- Right...theres a new race and its being run on the video circuit... - NonA 07:56:24 04/26/04 (0)
- what are you smoking DUI :-)? - NonA 07:40:39 04/26/04 (5)
- You are missing something. Maybe a lot. Read the post again. - Duilawyer 21:26:11 04/26/04 (2)
- Relax DUI no reason to get bent out of shape... - NonA 06:16:59 04/27/04 (1)
- ,,,I thought it was DVDA and looked for it, did not find it. - Duilawyer 07:25:26 04/27/04 (0)
- He was quoting what YOU wrote (nt) - racerguy 13:21:08 04/26/04 (0)
- 1999.Gary.nt - Guss2 07:45:23 04/26/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- ironic... - tunenut 10:00:37 04/27/04 (1)
- I see you got the point (about the arrogance)...maybe she will... - NonA 10:23:14 04/27/04 (0)
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