Let me just say that I find your reviews generally informative and worthwhile . But I wanted to talk about the issue that I find annoying: recommandations.As I see it - in every field there is a quality curve. And some products are better than others. you should normalize your grading system according to this quality curve so that your scale is correct.
For example, you can rescale all the product grades to be within 0 -10 , so that 0 is the weakest and 10 the best.
Most products are, by definition , avarage, mediocre. Probably about 1/3 of the products are at least "good" , ie. noticebly better than avarage, and so should be recommended. About 1/10 of the products are excellent, and only about 5 percent of all products are truely superb (this word is a superlative, and looses it's meaning otherwise).I feel that stereophile devides the quality if the following fashion:
~95 percent- recommended
~60 percent- excellent
~40 percent- truely amazing, superb, one of a kind, etc.
~5 percent- avarage or less than avarage, flawed.some reviewers have the following statistic on the products they review:
~100 percent - recommended
~100 percent - excellent
~95 percent - truely amazing, the best, one of a kind...
~0 percent - avarage or less
I find it difficult to take your conclusions seriously when presented in this fashion .Danny
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Topic - To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - danlo 13:14:43 07/30/04 (179)
- To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Tom S 17:58:01 08/02/04 (72)
- Well I'm 55 and I've been an audiophile since I was 13, too! - Bruce from DC 07:06:50 08/03/04 (16)
- Re: Well I'm 55 and I've been an audiophile since I was 13, too! - Tom S 10:26:57 08/04/04 (4)
- it helps to have a sense of humor around here - Bruce from DC 16:20:30 08/04/04 (3)
- Re: it helps to have a sense of humor around here - Tom S 03:59:30 08/05/04 (0)
- Chicken vs. Egg... - Ivan303 19:09:15 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: Chicken vs. Egg...all scrambled, with cheese, please! - Bruce from DC 13:24:17 08/05/04 (0)
- There are two ways to run a magazine these days --- - kavakidd 07:41:33 08/03/04 (10)
- What auto review mags do you read that have no advertising... - mkuller 14:18:58 08/05/04 (1)
- Not sure - but maybe you - kavakidd 14:35:09 08/05/04 (0)
- Re: There are two ways to run a magazine these days --- - a dainty man 13:59:05 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: There are two ways to run a magazine these days --- - Don T 10:10:32 08/03/04 (6)
- Re: There are two ways to run a magazine these days --- - TomLarson 12:08:42 08/03/04 (5)
- I'd pay too... - Don T 13:29:38 08/03/04 (4)
- Re: I'd pay too... - TomLarson 19:53:38 08/03/04 (3)
- Sigh... - John Atkinson 04:06:36 08/03/04 (38)
- Wow- I'm going to enjoy this new place with Arthur S in it. Now about RCL grading- wish they gave grades like them while - Joe M 06:54:00 08/06/04 (0)
- Re: Sigh... - Arthur Salvatore 16:20:27 08/05/04 (5)
- Re: Sigh... - theaudiohobby 16:29:54 08/06/04 (4)
- Re: Sigh... - Arthur Salvatore 07:10:05 08/07/04 (3)
- at least Stereophile........ - mikel 08:46:05 08/08/04 (1)
- Re: at least Stereophile........ - Arthur Salvatore 09:46:26 08/11/04 (0)
- Re: Sigh... - theaudiohobby 11:55:09 08/07/04 (0)
- Hello MR. Atkinson - tomer 22:52:12 08/03/04 (3)
- Mr. Atkinson, Sam? - Ken B 18:06:28 08/04/04 (2)
- Please read what is actually written - John Atkinson 14:32:07 08/05/04 (0)
- Re: Mr. Atkinson, Sam? - Tom S 12:43:59 08/05/04 (0)
- Silly, John! Just have another category for SACD, and one for DVDA - SamTubes 21:07:25 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: Sigh... - Tom S 19:53:00 08/03/04 (10)
- Re: Sigh... - jamesgarvin 14:33:10 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: Sigh... - theaudiohobby 20:34:47 08/03/04 (8)
- Re: Sigh... - Tom S 05:54:09 08/04/04 (7)
- Re: Sigh... - theaudiohobby 08:23:04 08/04/04 (0)
- well done ... - TBone 07:09:24 08/04/04 (5)
- Re: well done ... - Tom S 10:42:51 08/04/04 (4)
- the audio game continues ... - TBone 12:39:26 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: well done ... - theaudiohobby 12:07:40 08/04/04 (2)
- Re: well done ... - Tom S 15:23:35 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: well done ... - theaudiohobby 03:31:17 08/05/04 (0)
- hmmm ... since it has potential ... it must be A++++++++++++++++ ... - TBone 11:20:27 08/03/04 (13)
- It simply adds another rating category. - Pat D 20:30:54 08/03/04 (2)
- once again ... - TBone 07:17:33 08/04/04 (1)
- Then any rating system must be mysterious to you. - Pat D 19:53:48 08/06/04 (0)
- uh... - drclark 11:37:00 08/03/04 (9)
- it is? - TBone 13:55:50 08/03/04 (0)
- Yes - John Atkinson 13:34:40 08/03/04 (4)
- Oh, so that's what it is, I just though I was going mad. (nt) - JMCIII 18:23:21 08/03/04 (0)
- John ... dont be puzzled ... - TBone 13:46:32 08/03/04 (2)
- Admitting you misunderstood JA's post is a bit too much, eh nt - theaudiohobby 14:35:59 08/03/04 (1)
- lol ... - TBone 07:01:18 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: uh... - regmac 12:20:47 08/03/04 (2)
- you are quite right... 14! Am I right? (nt) - drclark 12:35:56 08/03/04 (1)
- Well, I was always taught it depended on the weight of the angels. - JMCIII 18:21:33 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: Sigh... - regmac 06:31:18 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - SamTubes 03:07:49 08/03/04 (0)
- It's so sad that so many reflect the worst things about Salvatores site. - Don T 00:23:28 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Rob Doorack 19:42:19 08/02/04 (13)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Arthur Salvatore 09:29:11 08/04/04 (2)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Rob Doorack 10:51:51 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Arthur Salvatore 08:56:37 08/05/04 (0)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Tom S 19:11:45 08/03/04 (9)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Rob Doorack 19:42:29 08/03/04 (8)
- Re: To: Soridman, Rob Doorack, TA & Stereo"Review"phile - Tom S 07:18:31 08/04/04 (7)
- A gentle suggestion - John Atkinson 11:08:52 08/04/04 (5)
- John OK, I Put Up! - Tom S 11:15:43 08/05/04 (2)
- Re: John OK, I Put Up! - John Atkinson 14:56:21 08/05/04 (1)
- Re: John OK, I Put Up! - Tom S 17:22:34 08/05/04 (0)
- No one is accusng you all of unethicality - SamTubes 15:00:21 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: No one is accusng you all of unethicality - John Atkinson 03:18:20 08/05/04 (0)
- Enjoy your new religion, just watch out for the Kool Aid - Rob Doorack 07:40:44 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - TA 17:26:15 08/01/04 (8)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - danlo 22:51:18 08/01/04 (1)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - TA 00:45:39 08/02/04 (0)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - Robert H. 20:07:51 08/01/04 (5)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - theprieb 19:22:59 08/02/04 (0)
- Wrong about SI... - mkuller 11:00:08 08/02/04 (2)
- Wrong about SI? - Kal Rubinson 11:06:53 08/02/04 (1)
- Like I said, "I'm not much of a sports fan."(nt) - mkuller 13:34:44 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: To John Atkinson and all the guys in Stereophile - TA 00:09:03 08/02/04 (0)
- Give up trying to influence editorial policy. - Rick W 20:57:05 07/31/04 (0)
- You would be happier getting your audio reviews from.. .. - mkuller 11:33:16 07/31/04 (95)
- Re: You would be happier getting your audio reviews from.. .. - danlo 23:18:15 08/01/04 (38)
- You should be happy Stereophile considers you POV important enough that they do take and publish measurements. - Don T 23:51:29 08/02/04 (0)
- What you don't seem to understand about... - mkuller 10:55:02 08/02/04 (36)
- listening biases - morricab 04:23:20 08/03/04 (0)
- What you don't seem to understand... - Jay 12:48:24 08/02/04 (34)
- another point of view - Grant 10:09:33 08/04/04 (2)
- Re: another point of view - Jay 10:45:10 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: another point of view - Grant 14:31:19 08/04/04 (0)
- First, I think you're taking these "rankings" way too seriously... - mkuller 13:32:28 08/02/04 (30)
- clueless - woodyJ 08:36:05 08/05/04 (1)
- Are you actually Ted or just his girlfriend?(nt) - mkuller 10:35:06 08/05/04 (0)
- Recommended Component "rankings" ... - Jay 23:36:20 08/02/04 (27)
- Let's take the Bible as an analogy... - mkuller 10:22:22 08/03/04 (13)
- A better analogy . . . - Jay 11:26:17 08/03/04 (12)
- Ok let's take your analogy... - mkuller 12:05:21 08/03/04 (11)
- Geeesh! - Jay 14:45:16 08/03/04 (10)
- Talk about dense... - mkuller 14:56:57 08/03/04 (9)
- Talk about DENSE... - Jay 18:09:41 08/03/04 (8)
- I give up... - mkuller 18:57:34 08/03/04 (7)
- I give up... - Jay 09:42:24 08/04/04 (0)
- A lack of logical thinking? - John Atkinson 03:49:02 08/04/04 (5)
- Then why bother separating into classes? - morricab 00:32:46 08/05/04 (2)
- Re: Then why bother separating into classes? - John Atkinson 03:37:43 08/05/04 (1)
- Oh, I get it all right. - morricab 02:53:51 08/06/04 (0)
- Logical thinking . . . - Jay 07:42:23 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: A lack of logical thinking? - theaudiohobby 05:24:31 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: Recommended Component "rankings" ... - Don T 00:03:22 08/03/04 (12)
- Huh??? - Jay 08:05:22 08/03/04 (11)
- Re: Huh??? - Don T 22:49:03 08/04/04 (3)
- Then do as Salvatore and say its not recommended... - morricab 00:43:49 08/05/04 (2)
- So you're actually a "Salvatorian"...(nt) - mkuller 10:40:08 08/05/04 (1)
- Re: So you're actually a "Salvatorian"...(nt) - morricab 03:00:11 08/06/04 (1)
- Re: Huh??? - Robert H. 10:04:51 08/03/04 (5)
- Re: Huh??? - Don T 10:13:34 08/03/04 (4)
- Re: Huh??? - Robert H. 10:43:29 08/03/04 (3)
- Re: Huh??? - Don T 11:03:02 08/03/04 (2)
- Re: Huh??? - Robert H. 11:42:18 08/03/04 (1)
- Re: Huh??? - Don T 11:53:41 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: Huh??? - Don T 09:13:48 08/03/04 (0)
- Agreed. Home Theater uses a grading - bwkendall 12:30:51 07/31/04 (55)
- Actually, I am becoming convinced that I am the only one - bwkendall 13:57:16 07/31/04 (54)
- Re: Actually, I am becoming convinced that I am the only one - Robert H. 14:45:05 07/31/04 (53)
- I take them for what they are. - bwkendall 10:12:32 08/01/04 (52)
- That's not what they are... - Robert H. 12:18:09 08/01/04 (51)
- Re: That's not what they are... - jcoe 07:12:07 08/02/04 (50)
- correction to above - jcoe 20:13:54 08/02/04 (0)
- Absolutely right... - Robert H. 09:23:25 08/02/04 (0)
- Re: That's not what they are... - Rob Doorack 08:22:04 08/02/04 (47)
- Re: That's not what they are... - jcoe 10:32:37 08/02/04 (23)
- To quote one Prominent reveiwer - Fretless 15:06:18 08/04/04 (0)
- That's a lot of words to say "I have no proof for my claim" - Rob Doorack 12:57:18 08/02/04 (20)
- Re: That's a lot of words to say "I have no proof for my claim" - jcoe 13:27:48 08/02/04 (19)
- Re: "I have no proof" - Rob Doorack 15:43:31 08/02/04 (18)
- Re: "I have no proof" - jcoe 20:43:32 08/02/04 (17)
- LOL, Don't you know Rob? - SamTubes 06:39:21 08/03/04 (11)
- Re: LOL, Don't you know Rob? - Tom S 17:35:30 08/05/04 (3)
- Re: "Funny thing that he never mentioned being a reviewer" - Rob Doorack 08:30:38 08/06/04 (2)
- "What do you think the bold face capital R next to my name means?" - Robert H. 19:22:02 08/07/04 (1)
- Re: "What do you think the bold face capital R next to my name means?" - Rob Doorack 06:43:46 08/08/04 (0)
- Re: LOL, Don't you know Rob? - theaudiohobby 20:03:35 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: LOL, Don't you know Rob? - jcoe 17:07:15 08/03/04 (1)
- All advertising is amplification, jcoe, and these are advertising mags... - SamTubes 21:26:25 08/03/04 (0)
- "Art SAlvatore exposed him" - LOL - Rob Doorack 08:15:45 08/03/04 (3)
- Rob, methinks thou doth protest too much! LOL NT - SamTubes 21:14:57 08/03/04 (2)
- I protest too much? How would you like it if you'd been libeled by a web site? - Rob Doorack 06:43:10 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: I protest too much? How would you like it if you'd been libeled by a web site? - Tom S 17:50:06 08/05/04 (0)
- Re: "I have no proof" - Rob Doorack 06:30:26 08/03/04 (0)
- " ... you seem to be the only member ... upset with my posts." - Dave Pogue 05:29:22 08/03/04 (0)
- Watch your tongue! - Jay 23:24:39 08/02/04 (2)
- Re: Watch your tongue! - jcoe 17:14:38 08/03/04 (1)
- Re: Watch your tongue! - Tom S 17:54:04 08/05/04 (0)
- Re: That's not what they are... - Sordidman 11:31:59 08/02/04 (0)
- Re: That's not what they are... - Robert H. 09:18:28 08/02/04 (22)
- I have a low tolerance for unfounded bullsh*t (nt) - Rob Doorack 09:38:54 08/02/04 (21)
- And I have a low tolerance for unfounded defences... - Robert H. 10:39:39 08/02/04 (20)
- I really liked that post, Robert H - SamTubes 08:32:45 08/04/04 (0)
- Great Post... - Fretless 16:39:36 08/03/04 (0)
- More truth in your post than most would like to admit... - Ivan303 13:53:13 08/02/04 (3)
- I disagree this is what the reader wants. - morricab 05:47:26 08/04/04 (2)
- I didn't say it was what you or I wanted... - Ivan303 07:35:59 08/04/04 (1)
- Re: I didn't say it was what you or I wanted... - Robert H. 07:46:50 08/04/04 (0)
- Re: "the issue of payoff reviews is a red herring" - Rob Doorack 13:02:24 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: "the issue of payoff reviews is a red herring" - Robert H. 14:49:17 08/02/04 (0)
- You should probably include everyone else on the planet...... - Sordidman 11:25:50 08/02/04 (3)
- Re: You should probably include everyone else on the planet...... - Robert H. 11:46:47 08/02/04 (2)
- Straw Man - Sordidman 11:55:56 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: Girlie Man - Robert H. 11:59:32 08/02/04 (0)
- The Day the Commies Invaded Audio. - bwkendall 10:50:34 08/02/04 (7)
- Re: The Day the Commies Invaded Audio. - Robert H. 11:54:18 08/02/04 (6)
- So backwards........ - Sordidman 12:04:40 08/02/04 (5)
- Re: So stupid... - Robert H. 12:18:18 08/02/04 (4)
- warning;those are not boogers Robert! - clbeanz 12:52:24 08/02/04 (3)
- Thanks for the warning, clb... - Robert H. 13:03:30 08/02/04 (2)
- you need to re-phrase that closer ;^) *nt - clbeanz 15:17:18 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: you need to re-phrase that closer ;^) *nt - Robert H. 15:37:28 08/02/04 (0)