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In Reply to: RE: +1 on the JJ, but there is another consideration. posted by 430cruz on June 17, 2021 at 11:55:33
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the Vandy 1Ci departed from here about two years ago. Great speaker at it's price point and was a fun speaker to listen to.
I go to a decent amount of live concerts, or did before COVID anyway, in 40 years have never heard that type of pinpoint imaging that I hear in some compatriots systems. No criticism if you want it, but it is not for me and is an artifact of the replay system unrelated to the live music experience, IMHO.
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Edits: 06/20/21
" No criticism if you want it, but it is not for me and is an artifact of the replay system unrelated to the live music experience, IMHO."
- On a grand scale I agree that it should not detract from the musical performance if the imaging is not there. After all it really is about the music. What I can say from my experiences as a musician and performer, when I am on stage playing I hear the sonic soundscape of the group. Whether it is orchestral or jazz groups the stage has its boundaries and we are in our space with either no elbow room or great elbow room. That specificity is easy for us to hear from up there. That auditory info does not always translate to the audiences seat because of the venue. I have been to performances where the hall is mediocre so the sound is just a wall with no inner detailing of separation or space. Other halls do relay what I know it sounds like from the stage and this adds to my overall enjoyment. Both types of live performances are good for the mind and soul because it is about the music, but I am doubly thrilled when it is in line with the later statement of mine.
If you attend amplified concerts then it is all bets off for any real form of imaging unless the band and sound crew want you to hear some of it. Pat Metheny is a prime example. If you sit in Verizon Hall at the Kimmel Center anywhere in the orchestra seating rows M to Z for an acoustic performance you will hear good to excellent staging and imaging. The smaller the group the more pinpoint it gets. The acoustics of this hall in my opinion are outstanding and offer the added dimension that is lacking in many other venues.
Maybe it is just me because I am a musician as well as an audiophile that I hear a different perspective in performances and venues than other folks might. The added perspective of being on both sides of the trumpet bell seems to be the force that makes me enjoy imaging and soundstage so much that I don't enjoy a system lacking in it as much as I do enjoy one that excels at it. Not saying the music means less but rather it means more when I hear a system recreate a palpable soundscape that my brain recognizes as real.
I am by no means dismissing anyone else's opinions at all - just offering up my feelings and perspective.
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Couldn't agree more. I've never heard anyone rave about "pinpoint imaging" after attending a concert. Way on the back burner of my priority list as well.
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