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Model: | RM40 |
Category: | Speakers |
Suggested Retail Price: | $4600/PR |
Description: | FLOORSTANDING RIBBON/HYBRID TOWER |
Manufacturer URL: | VMPS |
Model Picture: | View |
Review by chipperman (A) on July 28, 2006 at 00:52:45 IP Address: 69.235.208.252 | Add Your Review for the RM40 |
I listened to a pair of these last night in a dealer's home. I like that kind of real world experience, because it is more useful to me in evaluating how the units will adapt to my space, not the other way around. They were set about 7 feet from the rear wall in a room with a flat 8 foot ceiling about 13 feet wide. Some corner blocks were in the rear corners, and some type of bass traps on the side walls. I like nice equipment, but I don't obsess, so I really don't know what the amps were, except they had more tubes than a Las Vegas billboard, with cables the size of garden hoses protruding from them. There was no power conditioner, and the transport was a modified Sony of some sort.I was looking for the sonic experience; the one that scares you with it's impact. I guess that comes from coloration. With these speakers, there was none. I am not going to wax poetic over individual cd's, but all my test discs sounded different than before. After about a half hour, I realized it was because there are absolutely no added artifacts from the drivers. The ribbons are so fast, it shows all the detail on the disc, and the blending of the conventional bass drivers is seamless. I can't tell if any electronic instrument is voicing correctly (how could you?) but the Stradivarius was indistinguishable from live, the overtones and decay really amazing.
The big shock came when the dealer used Liquid Resolution on my Planotones cd. I am a cynic, and that by definition is a skeptic with 50 years of experience. What a bunch of hocus pocus. But when he finished treating the disc, it looked like a first surface mirror in a telescope!
All the scratches and little smudges normally on any disc were gone. So, I watched really carefully as the disc was inserted into the player, looking for slight of hand with maybe a setting change on the preamp or something. Nope. And I will tell you this; even to my age damaged ears, the difference was right there, right now, and very noticable. I don't know what this stuff is or does, but the depth of the stage was increased, not the width in this application, but the clarity of reproduction was akin to cleaning a pair of dirty eyeglasses. Kenny Vance's voice actually raised the hair on my neck on the test section we had been listiening to.
Pardon the digression, as I know this is a speaker review. The soundstage with these units is huge, and even though you can move out of the sweet spot the field seems to follow you with very little degredation. Ribbons are known for this and this pair excelled at it. There is really nothing to fault with this speaker, and I can't see how the sound in any other competitive unit will come close. I'll never go back to cones again.
Does it have flaws? Well, the huge and powerful bass doesn't have that colon emptying slam from the pipe organ in the bottom half of the lowest octave, but if you don't listen to that kind of music, it really doesn't have any flaws. That was the wierd part, it is just so neutral, it wasn't there. And I don't think the room setup was too great, so that makes it all the better. As for the price to value ratio, well there goes the hype of the other manufactures. This is not just a steal, an outstanding value for the money, etc., this is the best speaker I've heard at any price, period. If you hear one, you'll know what I mean.
Now, the spouse factor could come into play here. These are big towers; I wasn't ready for that. All those drivers up and down the column make for a huge soundfield, but it looks like a refrigerator cut in half, one side each residing apart from its sibling. Of course, many of you like that, and these will play loud in a really big room.
Product Weakness: | Really couldn't find any, other than size and placement, something all the big units share. |
Product Strengths: | Fast, accurate, huge soundfield, the most amazing clarity and range, and the best value out there. |
Associated Equipment for this Review: | |
Amplifier: | Dont know |
Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): | Sont know |
Sources (CDP/Turntable): | Sony |
Speakers: | RM40 |
Cables/Interconnects: | Xtreme |
Music Used (Genre/Selections): | Vocal, Violin, Pipe Organ |
Room Size (LxWxH): | 20? x 13 x 8 |
Room Comments/Treatments: | Some bass panels |
Time Period/Length of Audition: | 2 hours |
Type of Audition/Review: | Dealer Demo |
Follow Ups:
Seems like every month there is a post on one of the audio forums about a customer who just plopped down some serious green only to have his VMPS speakers arrive DOA. Here is the latest story.http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=30105.msg267820
Generally, the DOA condition is blamed on the shipping company. Yeah, right.
Like most of these VMPS poor QC threads, this one probably won't be up for long. Read it now while it's still around.
It's true, the panels will fail if dropped far enough to dislodge one of the 56 Neodymium matnets in the motor. They are easy to replace, however, by the user.
Should read "magnets", not "matnets". BTW our QC is first rate, with 48 hrs burnin followed by a trip to my soundroom where each pair is tweaked and tuned, then returned to the factory for packing and shipping.
If you're going to waste bandwidth with personal assaults, do it there.
all of the energy spent. i really enjoy AA when there is some quality insight from the many excellent contributors.
since the insignia craze i have not felt as motivated to follow threads and this over done pissing contest works only to send people away.
i would have been extremely interested to learn some pointers and facts about the VMPS approach to speaker building as well as those from GR.
you make fine speakers. Ultimately, not my cup of tea, but DAMN good. Most everyone who counts knows this. So...why do you feel the need to respond to this sort of crap, thereby lowering yourself to the LCD? I don't get it.Mike
P.S. I understand that we share a passion for the Blowtorch.
Brian, I like when you get amusingly sarcastic.Just don't go Mel Gibson or Richard Vandersteen on us, okay?
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You're right, i need a thicker skin.
for auditions?
We're negotiating with one in Ft Lauderdale right now, watch our Forum at audiocircle.com for details.
i'm interested in your subs.
You take it personally because you give everything you can into these designs and each one is some sort of acheivement for you. It is difficult to take any sort of criticism here when you are that passionate about your work. That same passion is what you got you where you are now however. Overall, it is a good thing.I think if I were in your shoes and selling my own speakers to the general public I'd have a huge supply of Prozac on hand. ;)
ps. Remember that everybody has their own tastes and it's not always the same as yours. I don't think a speaker exists out there that will please everybody. :)
Bill
actually HEARD the VMPS speakers. Well, I've heard them and owned them, and I agree that they're one of the true thoroughbred speakers out there. For that reason I'm not about to throw stones at this review. My own rule here is to not comment on gear I've not actually owned. Reading about a speaker or hearing at a show or even a dealer is an unreliable way to predict listening satisfaction- which IS, of course, what this is all about.
I dont post here often, but Ive seen Mr. G. R. Research attack Brian in the past. Hey Danny, Im one of those misguided folks who bought RM40s and love em. Had mine for almost 4 years now. They are the only part of my system that I have no desire to change. Other than 40s probably the best speaker Ive heard was a Vandersteen 5a, but if offered a pair of Vandys for my 40s, Im keeping my 40s. Im sure your XO mod for the Insignia`s is really great.
Oops, what I really meant to say was, "Ouch!"
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Is this Danny person somehow actually associated with a speaker designer? If he is, it is kind of pathetic coming on here simply to try to trash a particular brand of speakers.All I know is, I have owned and auditioned many speakers over the last 30 years, and I have heard nothing that, to me, is even marginally better than my 40's up to the $12k-$15k price point. Obviously, I am not saying they are necessarily better than anything else...but to me, they sound like what my idea of loudspeakers should sound like. That is, to me, they just dont seem to have a discernable sound. They dont sound cold and dry like many speakers I've heard, and they dont sound overly warm and syrupy like so many speakers seem to sound to me.
They are difficult to set up....it took me awhile and I almost gave up on them several times. But, even here, I must commend Mr. Cheney, as I am sure he must have fielded at least a half dozen calls from me and he was always polite and patient. (And Mr. Cassler hepled me quite a few times also). And Brian, thanks for the free replacement wooded cone piece that my stupid two year-old nephew yanked out and lost!
"Is this Danny person somehow actually associated with a speaker designer?"My loudspeaker designs have been in just about every major publication in the industry, and are all over the Internet with reviews in lots of forums and on line publications. While I have never won an award from a TV channel, my designs have won an Editors Choice award and a Golden Ear award from The Absolute Sound.
"If he is, it is kind of pathetic coming on here simply to try to trash a particular brand of speakers."
Actually I have been taking abuse from Brian Cheney for years now so my tolerance level for him isn't very high, , and my bluntness with him is the result.
I don't really recall him initiating an attack on your products.Care to direct me to a thread he started dissing, I don't know, your Paradox Ones? You know, the ones whose curves on your site didn't strike me as quite as flat as you quoted them to be in various places.*
*Although many people say they are a fine speaker.
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I have never heard, much less owned, any of the current line of VMPS speakers nor do I have any connection with the company or Brian Cheney so I have no dog in this fight.
Your characterization that, "Actually I have been taking abuse from Brian Cheney for years now..." does not correspond at all with my perception of your exchanges here on AA over the past few years. It appears to me that you have taken far more shots at Mr. Cheney than he has at you, this thread being but one example. Both of you would do well to forget about past dustups and get on with running your respective companies. Continually airing old grievances on a public forum, even if you are correct, only serves to damage your reputation. Cut your loses and move on.
Thanks for the kind words. We have recently made the speakers easier to set up by pretuning at the factory. We now also install a passive "CD EQ" filter to compensate for the waveguide's HF rolloff.
"We now also install a passive "CD EQ" filter to compensate for the waveguide's HF rolloff."I assume you meant to say "compensate for the increased output in the lower frequency range due to the waveguide.". That is, after all, what a wave guide does - amplify. Did you break the laws of physics or did you simply misconvey your point?
Sorry, you are quite incorrect. My patent is explained at length on the VMPS Forum.
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Hummmmm? Don't know what amp or pre?
...a review by someone with zero posts to his name?
....but when he is asked questions about the review and just disappears. Nothing more is heard from him......
Well, if it makes you feel better...I've had a chance to hear all of the VMPS line at "Todays Audio" here in Flint, Michigan....pretty darn good IMO.I will mention that I do own some VMPS speakers, (My homtheater)...I use Apogee Duetta Signatures in my two channel system...two VMPS subs in that system.
The bass was great. I would imagine the bass from the RM-40 and RM-2 would be amazing, since these two go much deeper than the RM-30. The narrow sweet spot thing wasn't to my liking though.
Our new Constant Directivity Waveguide provides 180 degree horizontal dispersion full-range.
Brian> "Our new Constant Directivity Waveguide provides 180 degree horizontal dispersion full-range."So the upper frequency ranges will not loose output even at 90 degrees off axis. This would appear to defy the laws of physics. Would you care to post some on axis and off axis response measurements to confirm this claim?
Learn to spell, Danny. Then do a Goggle search on Constant Directivity so you can learn about the subject before posting specious questions. A diffraction slot works on audio frequencies just as well as light frequencies (its usual application). Or see my letters patent filing when it is laid open to public inspection.
Show us then. Let's see those measurements? Wouldn't that prove your point? Or will it nullify it?
Upcoming review of the RM30 CDWG in Stereo Times includes measurements.
I think you are assuming he has measurements to share. Some have suggested that he doesn't use measurement equipment to design his speakers.
Some may be right. :)
More lies. There are measurements of the RM/X bass system performed by me on our Forum at audiocircle.com. I have both the Sysid and Clio systems with both a calibrated B&K and the 1/4" mic of the Clio system. When I was assembling the Spica TC 60 I supplied 1m measurements of each of 250 systems to the client.Measurements are much more easily manipulated than listening impressions. Put your faith in them exclusively and you may be astonished how they often fail to correlate with results of critical listening.
So you do have measuring equipment and you just don't use it, or at least not with your own products. Or you use it but just don't publish measured responses?
More non-content from you, Danny. And no response from me.
I must admit that on this point I'm sort of with Danny.You make claims about things, then just ignore requests for measurements that would prove your point... I don't get it, sorry ??? puzzled !!
This is a legitimate question, very hard to deal with adequately, but I'll give you an example which says a lot about measurements:When we were assembling the Spica TC 60 John Bau sent us prematched drivers grouped into "A", "B" amd "C" categories. We were supposed to use "A" tweeters with "A" woofers. Out of curiosity one day, I measured three "A" tweeters using my ultranearfield technique. The tweeters were 3dB apart! I brought this to his attention, but received no response. By his methods, the drivers were correctly matched.
We ran FR sweeps on each speaker after they were done. There was only one spot (plus/minus half an inch horizontally and vertically) on the baffle where the TC60 measured relatively flat. And I could only obtain these good results at a nonstandard measurement distance of 80cm, after that my Sysid could not gate out all the late arrivals.
Still, John was pleased with my tests, then lamented "Why couldn't Stereophile get those results?". Well, it's because they placed their mic elsewhere.
So which measurements do I publish? The best? The worst? All of them? Post a disclaimer that "Your mileage may vary"?
I've only scratched the surface here. I make measurements to learn things about what my speakers are doing. I have published such on my Forum at audiocircle.com, if you care to look. However, if the customer is thereby led to believe that's how the system will perform in the owner's particular environment, he'll be disappointed and, frequently, become quite angry with me.
BTW Stereo Times measured our RM 30 flat within 1.5dB over most of its range, in room. They will measure the CDWG version again for dispersion, I'm sure, and publish the results.
I do understand. But you have to realise that if anyone is queried about a claim, it is usually far better to give proof than do a walk-around.. Avoiding an issue only leads to more questions, and agro, whereas if proof is provided the onus is thrown onto someone to disprove if they want to argue. Just my thoughts ;-))
Well how can you respond? You have never posted any data.I can agree that measurements aren't everything and they really can't tell you how good a speaker really sounds, but it can tell you if there are problems.
Maybe I should learn to spell "Google". Sorry.
You're a funny guy. And what did I not spell correctly?
You meant "lose." Hey, you asked.
Very good sir. Wrong word chosen but not misspelled.
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If you ever have the opportunity to listen to a VMPS speaker you will know how true this rings.Do a search here through the AA archive. Not only will you see how nasty this particular manufacturer can be, you will also see many "shill" posts by him.
You're right, I can come up with a much better shill post than "chipperman's". Let me work on it a little. OK if I hijack your moniker?Actually, it's much more effective just to trash the competition, since most inmates here dote on negativity. What's your favorite speaker?
as i have since 1978. And when was your speakers ever reviewed in TAS or Stereophile - Oh like NEVER
Mike Kuller wrote the review in TAS which appeared in Dec-Jan 2001 issue, perhaps you can do on search on his many postings here.The Tower II was a Recommended Component in Stereophile in 1989/90.
RM 40 won the "Best of CES for High End Audio" award 2002. There have been over 50 professional reviews, many are linked or quoted on our website vmpsaudio.com.
go back outside...
> > >
More than 600,000 A-25s have been sold since its premiere. This Dynaco value leader clearly ranks as the most popular quality speaker of all time. First it was listened to with doubt of its pretentious claims, then with awe for its performance; later with admiration for its listening ease; and finally with respect by the host of copiers it engendered. < < <
Dynaco speakers are long gone while VMPS thrives. Dynaco does sell Bose speakers however.
A two HOUR audition. Seems pretty minimal to me.
The dealer is one of our newer dealers in San Diego area, Brian Kyle who also owns Xtreme Cable.Chances are they were powered by Bruce Moore amps and the Sony CDP was likely the TRL modded Sony.
I think Brian has a pair of the "Brian Cheney Signature Edition RM40's" with the MLS Cabinets.
This is a "tweaked out, maximally upgraded" version of the speaker that won the Best of Show Award at CES a few years ago.
A very formidible speaker for those who like clean accurate sonics.
John > "This is a "tweaked out, maximally upgraded" version of the speaker that won the Best of Show Award at CES a few years ago."I have always wondered, since the Tech TV award is an award for innovation, what was it about the VMPS speakers that made them innovative?
From their web site: "For three days, the judges worked around the clock -- testing and evaluating everything from cellphones and cameras to high-end audio devices -- looking for the most innovative gear at CES."
http://www.g4tv.com/techtvvault/features/35258/TechTVs_2002_Best_of_CES_Winners.html?detectflash=false&
Hey Danny,Well, you'd be better served asking someone at Tech TV, since I haven't seen or reviewed the criteria of how they judge the "HIGH END" category.
Plus that was just before I actually became a VMPS dealer, but I might think that the WMTMW design with slot loaded PR, and slightly differing woofer responses, as well as the use of the Neopanels over a large portion of the frequency range, might have been considered inovative.
John> "Well, you'd be better served asking someone at Tech TV"For some reason I was thinking that the company that wins the innovation award would be able to share what that innovation was, but I have never seen it.
John> "but I might think that the WMTMW design with slot loaded PR"
There is certainly nothing new about a WMTMW configuration. A slot loaded PR? Hmmm, innovative or just not well thought out?
John> "and slightly differing woofer responses"
Hmmm, slightly differing woofer responses? Having measured some VMPS speakers myself I can certain understand the differing woofer responses statement. They certainly differed from an accurate response. But I don't think this to be very innovative, and I don't think the judges were taking any response measurements.
John> "the use of the Neopanels over a large portion of the frequency range, might have been considered inovative."
Since Neo panels have been around for a long time. I wouldn't think of them as innovative.
Then again since there were only two or three other companies that entered the high end category, the VMPS speakers must have been more innovative in some way than the rest.
Still it seams like if a company wins an award for innovation I would think that they might say something like, we won the Tech TV award for innovative products for our innovative... something.
Hey Danny,I think the larger question might be:
What motivates the World's Greatest Speaker Designer, to drop into a thread about a competitors product and feel that it is beneficial to make disparaging remarks?
What's up with that?
I'm being sincere. What is that?
I guess it's like when you see a bad accident and you don't what to look, but you just can't help it and you look anyway.Man did you see that wreck on the Audio Asylum? I mean ah, freeway, or something.
No, that is not what its like at all. There was no wreck until you decided to pile on.I just don't understand it.
Here you are the "Undisputed Best Speaker Designer in the Whole World", and you feel compelled to to aggravate, belittle, and take shots at another Designer.
I mean it is like Ali, going around shoving little kids, or Eistein walking around telling everyone how stupid they are, or Bruce Lee beating up girls.
When you're the best everyone knows, you don't have to belittle anyone to prove it.
That displays no confidence, and no class.
Why would the best Speaker Designer in the Whole World have confidence so low that he has to belittle other brands, to try and make himself look good?
Why would he even "lower" himself to such a level?
Ya got me.
For an old guy, I can go into most any gym and outlift 99% of the people in it.
But I don't go up to a trainer having a conversation with others working out and see what I can say to make them look stupid.
That is low class.
Baiting and engaging me, or Brian "does not" make you a better designer, or a better bigger person.
So why don't you just let Brian enjoy his customers and you enjoy yours.
John> "...and you feel compelled to to aggravate, belittle, and take shots at another Designer."Oh please John, I have taken more shots from him than just about any other person he has ever taken shots at and that would have to be a long list of people.
And are you trying to be flattering or are you trying to use reverse psychology on me? I don't think Brian would agree with you. He's great and I am nothing remember. Just ask him. He has told me that before. Has something changed?
Who gives a flying rat's a&& about what you and he did over the years.What the hell, you from the Middle East?
Forgettaboudit.
Point is, you were not being shot at now. No reason to Troll and start up.
And no, I don't know how to use reverse psychology.
Don't you think you're the Best Designer in the World?
If you don't who is?
Gotta be you.
Let me tell you, if you do think its you, then you have NO Reason to start up with B.
That cannot make you any better.
In fact, it can only show weakness.
You weak?
Didn't think so.
So as I said.
I sold a few pairs of your speakers.
Let's get it together.
You lost that Mullet, now lose the chip.
You make a good point. I guess I have a tough time watching misleading information being thrown around and I couldn't help but respond.You're right though. I shouldn't be the whistle blower. There will be plenty of others out there to blow the whistle and I should just sit back and watch.
A really bad mullet [redundant] .> The mullet is a type of haircut. It is relatively short on top, longer at the back (at least to the shoulders), with the ears exposed. However, ponytail is not a mullet. The mullet also goes by various nicknames, including Ape Drape, Camaro Cut, Shlong (Short-Long), Mudflap, Hockey Hair, ten-ninety, Tennessee Tophat and Kentucky Waterfall, Neck Warmer and Coupe Longueuil (Quebec French term meaning Longueuil-haircut). ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullet_(hairdo)
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Hay I used to have one of those. :) It was a pretty good looking mullet. Yep, those were the days.
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Really, and what did you sell? Do I need to send you a commission?Hay I picked up some of that NO Explode the other day. Have you tried that stuff?
6 pair of the x-ls. (2 pair in Rosewood)And no, Brian doesn't care, he doesn't have a speaker in that price category.
I see no reason for you two to keep this act going. You are both too good at what you do, to waste valuable energy (not to mention Public and Professional Image) on this kind of crap.
So knock it off, cause I'll call both of you on it, any time I see this stuff.
And don't be baiting me either.
No, I haven't picked up any NO Explode (maybe that explains your behavoir :^)
But I have been taking Arginine for over 25 years every day, so NO cycle,is nothing new to me.
Hello John!
So, you are not a natural mesomorph ?
I read all about Arginine in Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's book about life extension, does it work ?
Someone said it can make your joints bigger, not a bad thing IF you enjoy da weed LOLEver heard of Mike Mentzer and his "one set to failure" Heavy Duty training ?
I just rep out using super slow reps at light weight, no more ass busting squats for me at 52 years of age.
I have been doing regular and hammer curls, and reading all of this.
It has given me a great pump!
Hi Chris,The Aginine started as a result of the Life Extension book, but I doubt the effectiveness of it as a HGH stimulator unless taken as an IV drip infusion.
Mike Mentzer was a friend of mine and we used to work out together on occasion. Very nice guy, although plagued by a few demons.
Super Slow IMHO is OK for tone and general fitness, but I still like to push the big stuff 500# squats, 400# pulldowns, 250# bent over rows, 300# close grips and the like.
You do need to be careful and complet warm up is essential. At 58, I know what you mean by "aches and pains" and generally only train heavy (for me) no more than 2 x a week.
But there are few things like the feel of a heavy weight moving, and "YOU" are moving it. Must be a "Power thing".
Strangely enough, most around here only know me for my "audio" posts, while, I regularly post to several Sports Science lists and engage some of the worlds most notable coaches, trainers, and sports scientist.
Why do you take Arginine IF it isn't a HGH releaser ?
Ditto on the big weight, it is a power trip!
I am not sure I agree with Mentzer's "One set to failure only" theory's ?I like to vary things around, so my body is always having to adapt.
Sometimes, I would do a 100 rep set, some times light only, and another day go really heavy.My business makes so many demands of me that it is hard to KEEP a training partner.
I need a decent Home Gym, like say a Universal ?
Any insight into an easy to use, reasonably priced home gym ?
I do not want free weights at home, prefer a weight stack ?
The Arginine is a needed compound for the Nitric Oxide Cycle, and helps with several metabolic and cellular functions.Big WEIGHTs are surely a power trip, but using large loads late in life below the injury threshold, certainly helps maintain:
1) Muscle Mass which dwindles quickly after 40
2) Bone Density same
3) Hormonal Profile Maintenance
4) Athletic Appearance
5) Greater Blood SupplyOne Set to Failure is not a viable training system for anyone with serious intentions, and let me assure you Mike did not "rise to fame" training that way.
I train at home and have no partner, although I like going to a GYM and training with friends. So CA has some of the best gyms in the World.
As far as a Home Gym, I know you don't want to hear it, but the best is a Power Rack w/Lat Machine, an Olympic Barbell Set, some Dumbbells, and an Adjustable Bench.
Stick with the basics:
Flat and Incline Benches, Rows, Squats, Deadlifts, Pulldowns, Presses, Curls, High Pulls, and anything else that "feels good".
First set should be light and no less than 30 reps
Second Set 15 reps,
Third set 10 reps, and if you want to get (or stay) strong,
Fourth set of 4-6 reps with a very heavy weight (done safely of course)
My Gym is "Outside" on my patio, and I train outdoors year round.
Nothing like doing sets of heavy squats in the pouring rain, on a cold night, and I mean nothing!! Something primal about it.
How about you crawl back under your rock and take your shills with you.
Thanks John!
My younger brother is genetically gifted, a total Mesomorph from head to toe!
I am mostly Mesomorph, but have some endomorph traits, so i gotta watch the diet.Thanks for sharing all your advice!
My RM 40's are playing Metallica and Judas Priest when I work out, just LOVE that Heavy Metal!
Okay, thanks for the sale, and I'll try to heed your advice.John> "No, I haven't picked up any NO Explode (maybe that explains your behavoir :^)"
I haven't started taking it yet.
You are confusing the Technical Innovation Award that the CEA hands out with the "Best of CES" competition run by Tech TV.The criteria for the "Best of CES" award for High End Audio included
sound quality and value, among others. There were 37 entrants in 2002, including an $18,000 JBL system and a $20,000 Silverline. The $4,600pr RM 40 defeated all comers and garnered a unanimous vote of 26 judges.Our win became subject of a primetime ABC News broadcast on Jan 21, 2002 with a 2 minute feature, making me the only High Ender not married to a Hollywood actress on network television.
Why not be content with whatever success the marketplace grants you, rather than attack me from jealosy and ignorance?
Brian> "The criteria for the "Best of CES" award for High End Audio included sound quality and value, among others."Not according to their web site. And what would make anyone think that the people that work for Tech TV have any credibility to judge sound quality of high end audio? They don't review audio products.
The category of high end audio, now called "Ultimate Audio", has the lowest participation of all categories. They have never had 37 entrees.
From Caroline Diaz of G4Tech TV: "Yes, we do not have as many entrants into the high-end audio category as we do in the other categories."
The winner of each category competed only against others registered in that category.
I asked Caroline how many companies had entered each category, each year, to get a feel for how much competition there really was. I had been told unofficially that in first year only three companies had entered in the high end category. Her reply was that there were, ah, less than a handful.
And year two? She said, well ah, not very many more.
But in 2004 she seamed to believe that there were nearly 25 that entered, if memory serves her correct.
Caroline Diaz is the Product Reviews Manager at G4techTV.
In 2005 Dera Revel, CES coordinator, G4TechTV stated there were about 10 entrants in the Ultimate Audio category.
26 judges to judge 3 to maybe 4 entrees in the high end audio class? I don't think so.
And no Brian, I am not jealous and certainly not ignorant. I'd just like to see a little honestly in advertising. Claiming that you "won the show" all the time when you really only beat two or three other companies out for an award from tech TV is pretty misleading.
The 37 entrants in the 2002 Best of CES for High End award was announced at the time of the judging, on worldwide cable. I was given the figure in writing.You spread malicious falsehoods, hoping to build yourself up by tearing down competitors. How awful. How pitiful.
Sorry dude, that is not what I was told from the people at Tech TV that run that deal. I have it in writing too (on my computer) :). Both of the people that I mentioned e-mailed me that info. I can't imagine any reason that they would lie.And Brian, you don't need me to tear you down. You do a great job of it yourself.
Have it your way, Danny. Decent people shouldn't respond to you regardless of the disinformation you post.
Just look at all the other "innovative" products that also won TechTV awards. At least the RM40 is in good company. LOL.Congratulations to TechTV's Best of CES winners.
Moxi media center -- home media server
Rio Riot -- 20GB portable MP3 player
VMPS RM-40 -- great-sounding speakers with ribbon-cable tweeter
DVX-S100 DVD home cinema system -- high-end home theater in a box
FireBall -- component MP3 server
Moxi media center -- home media server
PrimeFilm 1800AFL -- slide and negative scanner
Evo D500 Ultra-slim -- small, inexpensive consumer PC
BeAtHome energy management system -- Internet-based home automation
IMT 2000 -- cellphone with integrated digital camera
Hiptop -- PDA/cellphone combination
A.T.B. SoundSak -- CD storage and player backpack with built-in refreshments
Music Keeper -- hard disk-based car audio
Please let us know why the above products did not deserve "Best of CES" awards in their respective categories.
I think their "Best of CES" awards would have carried greater credibility if they awarded a category for best electric razor & toe nail trimmer.
So you're just trolling.
No. Just stating the obvious. Plain and simple, "TechTV" has no business awarding anything to any "high end audio" company or product.
That's your unsupported, untutored, uninformed opinion. Thanks.
Please email me the name of the dealer, I'll send him a fruit basket.
The company's motto is: "I don't know how it works, but it does."cheers,
"What the hell is Liquid Resolution?? "
I don't know, but if it works better than Comet in the bathtub I want some!
d.b.
Here you go:(I haven't bought/tried it, but received a 'new product' email from Xtreme Cables.)
Todd
Well, this review says what us RM 40 owners have known for years!
They are incredible speakers, when you get them right.
I have got the RM/X and I agree with Chipperman that the midrange is amazing..Lots of detail..
Nice read, but how about telling us what you listen to at home. When one reads a rave review, it's always nice to know where the reviewer is coming from. That helps to put things in perspective, for me at least.
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