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In Reply to: RE: Who do you get your 'fiber connection' through ?................ posted by bullethead on June 13, 2015 at 05:24:21
I am getting 60 Mbps from Comcast. Never had any drop outs from Video or Audio. I never had any dropouts from Audio when I was at 6 Mbps either. So I was wondering why you thought this internet would be "congested"? .. Especially with Audio?Cut-Throat
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And infrastructure out here at Ocean Beach is all corroded?
We just got decent enough copper phone lines into a box a few blocks away to get ATT U-verse and even at 20Mbps there is congestion somewhere upstream as ALL of my Lossless FLAC services have hiccups. Even when directly taken from the router via Ethernet cable.
I really hate Commcast.
REALLY!
Anyone price a T1 line lately?
We just got decent enough copper phone lines into a box a few blocks away...
...I really hate Comcast."
I'm trying to understand the connection between your copper phone lines comment and hating Comcast. Comcast doesn't use phone lines. They use their own coaxial cable infrastructure, don't they? At least they do in our area.
While I battle Comcast about once a year to negotiate and keep their rate hikes at bay, I generally get pretty reliable service and incredible internet speeds.
Comcast Downloads at my place
U-Verse is copper to a hub somewhere nearby then fiber? to wherever it goes.Up until a year or so ago we had 3Mbps MAX DSL out here. The copper was so old and the boxes so far away that we couldn't even order 6Mbsp DSL.
Yes, Comcast s Cable not copper but I don't have Comcast.
Why?
I don't want to do business with Comcast.
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I was one of the early adopters of DSL in my old neighborhood through "the phone company" as it was a step up from my dial-up modem.... when the DSL service stayed up. We had to put inline filters on all the telephones so DSL wouldn't interfere with them, and the other way around.Unfortunately, we were on the fringe and the service would vary from about 200Kbs to nothing. Yes, that was 200Kbs (about 4x dial-up speed). That's not even 1/4 of 1 Megabit/sec and it would fade in and out.
When cable internet came to town I jumped on it and never looked back. We started with a reliable 2 - 3Mbs and they've been increasing the speeds ever since. We stayed at around 30Mbs for a few years then they jumped it 100Mbs and now nearly 200Mbs.
Our telephone company is advertising "Gig Internet" but the only people who can get it live within about a block of their central office. I just checked my area and the best we can get from them is 7Mbs, which is what I was getting 10 years ago via cable.
We all hate Comcast to a certain extent and they ARE pricey, but I'm addicted to their internet which has been very reliable for us.
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I also used to run DSL at 250 KBps.... I now pay for 50 MBps with Comcast. I also hate them, as they are pretty inept. Not near as much as I hate the Airlines (They are just evil).
Since I am retired, my biggest use of the internet is streaming Movies. I can't imagine why I would want over 50 MBps presently, can you?
Cut-Throat
I can't imagine why I would want over 50 MBps presently, can you?
Not really. I suppose if you had several kids living at home all on their wifi enabled devices at the same time hogging up bandwidth for movies and games, it probably makes sense to have incredibly fast internet.
My company subsidizes the cost of my internet for my home office and the fast speed comes in handy when I need to download HUGE files. I'm talking about multiple files that would span a few DVDs, mostly operating systems, developer tools, middleware, and other data center stuff.
If it weren't for the big files I would actively seek out cheaper service down around 10 - 20 Mbs if it were available.
At the moment the best service IMO is Verizon Fios. It beats cable by a wide margin. Fully symmetrical and very fast.
Your ping times are a bit slow, mine with Fios is 4ms. I keep a cable connection as a backup and my cable ping is like yours. How many hops to that server?
It is sad that people are still stuck with DLS on copper. POTS lines are still the most reliable for voice, but leave allot to be desired for data.
Just curious to know what you get up/down/ping on Verizon Fios?Yes, my ping times used to be faster (9 - 12ms typical) when my download speeds were around 35Mbs. They upped the downloads to ~180Mbs but my ping times went up. Its a good trade-off as fast ping times do little for me but fast downloads save a lot of time.
I'm not sure of the exact server that speedtest.net uses from my location to whichever Comcast server they use but a traceroute to simply comcast.com is 8 hops. However, this is not likely to be the server that speedtest uses.
We don't have Verizon Fios here. It's either Comcast, or the competing ISP which is "the phone company" and you already know how I feel about them. ;-)
I use my iPhone (Yes, iPhone!) as my internet backup if my Cable ISP goes down, or when I travel. I use the iPhone as a Wifi hotspot and speeds vary considerably depending on location. Here's what I'm getting from my home office on the iPhone:
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It is not uncommon for higher performance modems to incur additional delay due to more complex encoding required to achieve acceptable bit error rates. I don't know if this applies to your cable modem or not. If it is possible to put the cable modem into a mode that runs at a lower speed, then you could test this hypothesis, testing with short packets.
It is also possible that the firmware in the modem or Comcast's routers has changed, etc...
It is also possible that other network traffic is causing buffers to fill up and this adds to the time your ping packets spend in queue.
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You will need a much lower latency connection if you plan to do high frequency stock trading or serious gaming. :-)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
My pings are a steady 4ms. Eight hops is reasonable to the headend.
Yes Fios is not everywhere but anyone I know who had gotten it is impressed. I have 75Mbs x 75Mbs and I am happy. They go up to 300Mbs.
You can click on the speed test map and try different servers. I had an issue with one of my VOIP providers being on a route that passed through some Time Warner nodes. Time Warner actually put a Bogon filter to block the adjacent Verizon router.
Your phone is fast and makes sense as a backup. Is there a data usage cap?
I think there is a data usage cap on my Comcast service but I've never been warned. I doubt that I actually use THAT much data. We watch a movie or two per week, stream relatively low bandwidth audio from Spotify, and my HUGE downloads are not that often.
I would probably hit a data limit if 4G/LTE were my primary service.
I would not think there was a cap on your cable.
I was talking about the cellular service. Some say unlimited, but I think they will charge or throttle down at some point.
I recall reading about a data cap on our cable internet a while ago but the limit was so high that no normal person would reach it. I believe it was intended to limit the few individuals out there who are consistent data hogs for whatever reason.
I don't have a cap 'that I am aware of' on my Verizon cellular service since it is billed directly to my company and I never see the invoice but I believe if I sucked down a lot of data it would be flagged I would be made aware of it.
My wife doesn't benefit from a big data plan, or unlimited plan, and hers tops out at 1GB/mo which she never hits. The limits will vary depending on the carrier and plan.
"My wife doesn't benefit from a big data plan, or unlimited plan, and hers tops out at 1GB/mo which she never hits. The limits will vary depending on the carrier and plan."
Same here... Kids use tons of data though!!! The cell phone is another appendage permanently attached to the hand...
now known as megapath.http://www.megapath.com/
not bad service I gather.
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