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In Reply to: RE: Put me in the official MSFT is dead column posted by PaulN on September 22, 2013 at 16:36:53
There's no "DOS". It's called a console window.
Why did you need the MAC address of the wireless access point?
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I needed the MAC of the damn computer. And the only way to find it was DOS. Call it whT you want, its DOS.
I put MSFT in the (brain)dead column years ago and switched to Mac.
Finding MAC address on Mac:
In the Utilities folder, the Network Utility tool:
The MAC (Hardware Address) for my current network interface:
No Googling around required. The Network Utility located in the, you guessed it, Utilities folder, tells all. Simple to find, intuitive to use. Done.
And if you prefer command line, it's all there too with familiar UNIX networking tools like ifconfig.
so maybe you can tell me how to find the plugins folder for Squeezecenter on my iMac, so I can change the config file for inguz. The experts over at the forum have not been posting in months, and it appears that the .net host for OSX that runs the inguz installation may also need troubleshooting. I wish I could say I enjoyed this stuf as clearly the resy pf the guys do here, but I don't. I have certain things I wish to accomplish, but I am impetuous, impatient, lazy and generally disinclined to my waste time fiddle-faddling with things-computer. And yet... :P
Sorry, I cannot help you with Squeezecenter or the plug-ins as I don't use them.
If finding it through a GUI is so critical to you. It's quicker and easier (for most people) using ipconfig or getmac from a command prompt, but here you go.
Thanks. I was configuring a friends computer. Thankfully, I don't need to work with w8 on a regular basis. I have written a lot of patent applications for MS, I live in WA and have always defended the brand. But let me tell you, they are doomed. Balmer is an idiot.
> I needed the MAC of the damn computer.
Oh, I thought you said the MAC address of the wireless access point.
Let me guess... You have MAC address filtering configured on your wireless access point, because you (or whoever set up your router) think that it improves security. It doesn't.
Does it make any difference that you used the command console instead of some obscure GUI app to find something that you shouldn't need to know? You would have had to Google how to find it either way.
Wow, i being schooled by a MS developer. ok, fine. The informTion sought was for the purpose you guessed. i disagree about the security. Nevertheless, said information should not require a command window to discover. This operating system is fubared.
AFAIK, the method of obtaining the MAC address has remained unchanged on Windows systems for a dozen years or more. You open a command prompt and type "ipconfig /all". You could have found this answer in under a minute by Googling "Windows 8" "MAC address".
Sounds to me like you're just having a bad day.
PS: on Linux it's "ipconfig -a"
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Since we're talking about being schooled...
I'll nitpick, just this one time. ;-)
On Linux, it is ifconfig -a , stolen from UNIX (BSD).
Windows also stole from UNIX and renamed it ipconfig .
In fact most command line utilities in Windows (or DOS) were stolen from UNIX.
I need to clean my glasses, so that I can catch my typos. (Or log into my Raspbery Pi that has been quietly running headless ArchLinux for the past 90 days without a glitch.)
FWIW, I have it direct from the horse's mouth that the BSD TCP/IP code was stolen from the DEC PDP10 version.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
I wouldn't be surprised as there was a lot of stealing going on. The TCP/IP utilities in BSD came about in the early 1980's. DEC was still around and going strong back then.
My limited experience with DEC was with their LSI-11/73 microcomputer card on the Q-bus running the DEC RT-11 OS. We used these as part of an EDA/ECAD 'autorouter' (by Calay Systems) for automating and optimizing the layout (route) of printed circuit board traces and component placement.
Ethernet was new back then, also backed by DEC in a big way if I'm not mistaken. I recall Ethernet over coaxial cable and Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection (CSMA/CD), not an issue today with switched packets. Fun stuff!
Digital Equipment Corp. along with Xerox and Intel developed and standardized the 10 Mbps Ethernet in its original form (RG8U coax), as an evolution of the 3 Mbps research Ethernet developed at Xerox PARC. At the time I was in charge of network architecture at Digital and participated in this effort. I was personally responsible for demanding that the Ethernet frame check (CRC) be increased from 16 bits to 32 bits and specified the polynomial. This was highly contentious with Xerox, but I was able to put this issue to bed by getting the CEO of Digital to tell the CEO of Xerox that the deal was off if they were to stick with the less reliable 16 bit CRC. Interestingly, the technical discussions between Xerox and Digital were conducted by email over the ARPAnet and these emails were intercepted at one of the ARPAnet routers and led to a news story about a joint effort between Xerox and Digital appearing in Electronic Daily News (EDN). I was also present at a meeting at the Holiday Inn in Tewksbury, Mass., where the MAC address size was fixed at 48 bits. We joked that we were personally going to sell MAC addresses at $1.00 each, and didn't want to limit our revenue opportunity to a mere $4B, as would have happened with 32 bit addresses.
One thing I remember well is also applicable to audio. The designer of the analog signaling on the Ethernet coax insisted on adequate shielding to prevent EMI. His slogan was, "Every cable is an antenna!" He demonstrated the level of potential interference with a field strength meter at the checkout lanes of a nearby grocery store, not too far from a 50 KW AM radio station.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Wow small world, my dad worked at Xerox on the 3Mb ethernet.
John S.
standardized the 10 Mbps Ethernet
Interesting post. About 15 years ago (is it that time already?), I had to link an admin block with its own network to a pre-press department I was setting up. By chance, I found an unused and long forgotten "thick ethernet" cable running between the two offices. After tracking down some old bits and bobs, we got it running, no cost, no hassle. Worked fine for years.
"Windows also stole from UNIX and renamed it ipconfig.
In fact most command line utilities in Windows (or DOS) were stolen from UNIX."
This might help...
I recall the story of how MS-DOS won out over CP/M but I'm not sure how your link 'might help'. Might help what?
"Might help what?"
Where DOS actually came from.
...but I still stand by my comment that many of those DOS commands were stolen from UNIX, or maybe CP/M stole them first!
Some examples:
DOS, UNIX
copy, cp
rmdir OR rd, rmdir
mkdir OR md, mkdir
chdir OR cd, cd
Am I a programmer Tony? No. I have better things to do. windows is now irrelevant.
You presumably typed some text in to do a google search. I don't see a difference between that and typing some text into the console to get the mac address, except that it's something to do with your own self-image ("I am not a programmer.")
Windows 8 is not very intuitive. You'd think they'd make it easier after so many attempts over the years yet....
Windows 8 in particular has been criticized for not being intuitive at all.
Try typing 'Windows 8 not intuitive' in your Google search field and see all the complaints!
The issue is not Widows 8 as I pointed out. It is the lack of GUI network management as a standard feature of Windows, going back at least to WXP.
Incidentally, I was able to easily deduce the MAC addresses of all my computers using the web interface on my BEC router . I looked at DHCP assignments and the ARP cache. [It has been my practice to configure fixed IP addresses to all of my machines and give them names as well. This prevents confusion and speeds recovery from power outages while keeping all the local host information in one place (the router).]
Typing commands to a command interpreter is not programming and one does not have to be any kind of programmer to do this.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"Windows 8 in particular has been criticized for not being intuitive at all. "
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I would say from what you've posted so far that you have no business messing around with MAC addresses. I suggest you pledge your liege as a good serf to Apple Computer. (see below)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Ok, Tony maybe I was a bit bitchy but Im not a moron. So. Lets move on. i vented, you guys were absolutely no help. Thanks.
"i vented, you guys were absolutely no help. Thanks. "
Don't worry... the 5C is available now in lots of pretty colors!!!
Feel better now??? ;)
My Kindle displays its wireless MAC address via a GUI. :-)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"My Kindle displays its wireless MAC address via a GUI. :-)"
But it doesn't have IOS 7!!!
Don't panic though, Amazon has a number of books you can D/L to help people struggling through adversity! ;)
I suggest you pledge your liege as a good serf to Apple Computer.
As opposed to Microsoft, Google, or others? The article has almost nothing to do with Apple specifically so I don't get your comment, except maybe to pick one of many evils and go with it. ;-)
"Am I a programmer Tony? No. I have better things to do. windows is now irrelevant. "
One also had to open a fridge door to get food. I hope you wont stop eating due to this small obstacle...
Whatever. You guys are all too into the technical wonders of operating systems. It is totally unfIr to compare the difficulty of obtaining a MAC address in win8 to opening a refridgerator. I have a degree in EE and a JD and I spent 30 minutes looking for obvious information. If you are not an IT manager, win8 is absurd. Disagree all you want and watch mac gain market share and theS dividend drop next year.
Edits: 09/22/13
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