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RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer?

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In Reply to: RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? posted by bwb on February 17, 2012 at 08:07:11

I don't remember this fellow being as persistent when he used to post here in the past. Why he feels the need to constantly "correct" those of us that don't embrace his views is beyond me.

There are many ways to play music with computers and computer-like components. This place would be very boring if we all did the same thing.

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RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Bob_C 16:04:36 02/17/12 (19)
"I don't remember this fellow being as persistent when he used to post here in the past. Why he feels the need to constantly "correct" those of us that don't embrace his views is beyond me."
Penis Envy???

Edits: 02/17/12
- RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Dynobot 17:47:52 02/17/12 (18)
  Mercman is just getting soft....no pun intended.
  
  Perhaps he is starting to think about upgrading away from his personal computer. After all a system like his deserves better.
  
  But then, there is a problem....he has a USB "only" Dac....and no High-End digital front end has USB out.
  
  Quite the Conundrum...the word Suck-Cost comes to mind.
  
  Dynobots Audio
  Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
  - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Mercman 07:52:42 02/18/12 (10)
    So if I assemble a computer running Linux I will no longer be using a computer?
    - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Bob_C 19:33:59 02/19/12 (0)
      "So if I assemble a computer running Linux I will no longer be using a computer?"
      
      Absolutely Merc!!! Even thought Linux is based on Unix with is the underlying OS of the MAC OS!!!
      
      Makes perfect sense to me.. LOL
    - The Million Dollar Question - Dynobot 08:20:07 02/18/12 (6)
      Don't you think -or- has the thought ever occurred to you that there might be front-ends better suited to High-End audio and better sounding than a Mac and Pure Music?
      With your gear something like a Linn or a Weiss Front-end would be right at home. Someone who has upwards of $10,000 invested in Power cords alone has no business using a personal computer and a $100 program as a front end.
      Linn Majik DSM
      
      Weiss MAN301
      
      Dynobots Audio
      Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
      
      Edits: 02/18/12
      - RE: The Million Dollar Question - fmak 22:13:03 02/18/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The Million Dollar Question posted by Dynobot on February 18, 2012 at 08:20:07
        
        He only listens to Grdon's stuff long term, as the rest of his system has been chosen to complement them (valve output, silver transformer, 8-167G Ram, etc etc)
      - RE: The Million Dollar Question - Mercman 08:54:16 02/18/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The Million Dollar Question posted by Dynobot on February 18, 2012 at 08:20:07
        
        I appreciate your concern and suggestions concerning potential improvements to my system.
        But the one thing I have learned over the many years of involvement in this hobby, is to find gear that pleases me and not audio reviewers, etc.
        I am under no delusion that my setup is the best out there. I'm sure its's not even close. But the one thing I do know is that I enjoy listening to this system. It is musically involving for me and very satisfying. This is why I have not changed my preamp-amp. I still enjoy them.
        The equipment you recommended I'm sure are top notch and just might out-perform what I have. But the goal of any audiophile should be to find a setup that works for him and then enjoy the music.
        I'm where I want to be-at least for the foreseeable future.
        
        Edits: 02/18/12
        
        I Have To Respect Your Answer...Thank You Sir..nt - Dynobot 09:01:40 02/18/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The Million Dollar Question posted by Mercman on February 18, 2012 at 08:54:16
        
        .
        Dynobots Audio
        Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
      - there's your problem. you equate spending more money with better sound. - bwb 08:26:05 02/18/12 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: The Million Dollar Question posted by Dynobot on February 18, 2012 at 08:20:07
        
        .
        
        While it is true that you need to spend a certain amount to get there, spending more does not always equal better.
        
        .
        
        Me or Merman....He is the one spending the cash - Dynobot 08:44:43 02/18/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: there's your problem. you equate spending more money with better sound. posted by bwb on February 18, 2012 at 08:26:05
        
        But then a $50 Jensen speaker will probably never sound as good as a $100K pair of Wilsons.
        
        Fact IS, you get what you pay for most of the time....
        
        High-value items will only sound so good. At the end of the day a $3K Shunyata power cord will sound better than a Iron-lung power cord every time.
        
        Dynobots Audio
        Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
        
        RE: Me or Merman....He is the one spending the cash - Bob_C 19:52:16 02/19/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Me or Merman....He is the one spending the cash posted by Dynobot on February 18, 2012 at 08:44:43
        
        But then a $50 Jensen speaker will probably never sound as good as a $100K pair of Wilsons.
        
        Are you at all familiar with the evolution of Wilson's? Do you understand speaker design at all? Do you understand what makes them great sound speakers? What is $50 Jensen? Something is your car door panel?
        
        "Fact IS, you get what you pay for most of the time...."
        
        Clearly not all the time. There is a point of diminishing returns,and at times items are priced to attract a certain market segment and not for sound quality.
        
        "High-value items will only sound so good. At the end of the day a $3K Shunyata power cord will sound better than a Iron-lung power cord every time."
        
        Really... Please tell us why? And will it be 1000 times better?
    - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Dynobot 07:59:42 02/18/12 (1)
      LOL....
      
      I have no idea, I am using a SB_Touch as my front end. But I guess its a computer too because it is running the Linux operating system.
      
      You guys are just too smart for me, you got me...using digital audio means having a "computer" in the chain.
      
      Dynobots Audio
      Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
      - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Bob_C 20:10:39 02/19/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? posted by Dynobot on February 18, 2012 at 07:59:42
        
        "I have no idea, I am using a SB_Touch as my front end. But I guess its a computer too because it is running the Linux operating system."
        
        In your opinion when is a computer a computer, or not?
        
        A SB touch is a propose built computer for audio. It has a CPU...It has the potential to run apps if you really wanted to. Same as a router.
        
        What is the difference if you run a MAC or PC and dedicate it to audio and get the OS to a state where is is not infringing on the audio playback?
        
        What is the difference? What is your cutoff... computer no computer?
        
        How and why did you come to this point?
        
        "You guys are just too smart for me, you got me...using digital audio means having a "computer" in the chain."
        
        For most clear thinking people the processor makes it a computer, not the face that you can run Microsoft Word on it...
  - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - fmak 23:14:31 02/17/12 (0)
    I have said this to him for quite a few while.
  - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - Bob_C 18:16:30 02/17/12 (5)
    "But then, there is a problem....he has a USB "only" Dac....and no High-End digital front end has USB out."
    You are so far off base it is not funny... There really is nothing wrong with USB...
    
    Edits: 02/19/12
    - RE: come on now, you don't see the irony in your position? Your computer is not like a computer? - fmak 22:15:06 02/18/12 (0)
      The village fool again
    - agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous - bwb 20:49:21 02/17/12 (3)
      .
      The consistent theme in his posts is how difficult it is to get USB audio to work well....
      Then he details the agonizing efforts he went to in an effort get his system optimized in the link below.
      On the one hand we have Mercman with basically a plug and play USB system vs. a system from Dynaudiorules that took tremendous effort to not be computer based even though it is based on a computer even after avoiding USB, even though he lists USB in the system.
      very amusing
      
      BTW I'm using a mac with a firewire pro-audio interface so really don't have a dog in the hunt.
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      .
      
      dynobot's system (Open in New Window)
      Edits: 02/17/12
      - RE: agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous - Old Listener 22:21:02 02/17/12 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous posted by bwb on February 17, 2012 at 20:49:21
        
        > The consistent theme in his posts is how difficult it is to get USB audio to work well....
        
        Perhaps he is fmak's long lost twin.
        
        Bill
        
        RE: agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous - Bob_C 20:14:30 02/19/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous posted by Old Listener on February 17, 2012 at 22:21:02
        
        Bill,
        
        You figured it out!
        Now we know (Open in New Window)
        
        one was plenty! - Old Listener 21:32:58 02/19/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: agreed, after further thought his position becomes even more ridiculous posted by Bob_C on February 19, 2012 at 20:14:30
        
        nt

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