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In Reply to: RE: Remembering John... posted by Jim Pearce on July 24, 2017 at 08:29:49
Today and Tomorrow (with Thad Jones, Frank Strozier, John Gilmore, Jimmy Garrison/Butch Warren and Elvin Jones).Expansions (with Woody Shaw, Gary Bartz, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, Herbie Lewis, and Freddie Waits)
Extensions (with Gary Bartz, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, Elvin Jones and Alice Coltrane on a couple tracks)
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Thanks Rick. I checked samples on allmusic and bought the only new copy I could find of "Expansions" - a fairly recent (now sold out) SHM-CD which appears to be the only issue on CD since 1998. "Today and Tomorrow" I have, "Extensions" I wasn't overly impressed with (in samples). I think I now have 24 of his albums, about one third of his total discography. Probably enough.
Tyner's 1960's releases are paramount- Jim.
You could say the same of Bill Evans, although the older Evans hit his stride in the early 60s while Tyner did perhaps his best work in the mid 60s, toward the end of his time with the John Coltrane Quartet and just after. But both of them had a tendency to stray and circle back, and Tyner with his long career and life has had more opportunity to do this. But this circling back seems to me to be characteristic of post-bop, which was always tending to collapse forward into free jazz or fusion or back into hard bop or overly subtle harmonic modulations in ballads and blues.
Of course in Tyner's case both his weakness and strength is his enduring dependence on John Coltrane. So, while I might agree that "McCoy Tyner Plays Ellington" (1964) or "The Real McCoy" (1967) represent Tyner at his best, so does "Remembering John" (1991). The question for me, to put it in the starkest terms, is whether there is more to post-bop than the terrain that the Quartet traversed so effortlessly.
Bill Evans did his best work in the 50's and 60's no question about it.
His 70's output was hit and miss.
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