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In Reply to: RE: "jdaniel claims to be busy 'working'" posted by Chris from Lafayette on October 21, 2016 at 09:19:24

Ummm....

I've played in orchestras and bands too. I didn't say it's poorly balanced as a recording but rather poorly balanced from an artistic perspective. Like putting a truck horn in a smart car--IMHO the Bergen orchestra's sound just isn't weighty enough to back up such indescrete thwacks and the results are comical.

Now, during the Dance of the Geezers, it's appropriately reigned in.

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Well. . . that's where our mystery guest and I disagree with you ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 17:45:56 10/21/16 (6)
And in fact what I heard (in multi-channel) was quite a variety of thwacks - with the tonal weight of the Bergen PO always equal to the task, no matter what the weight of the thwacks was.

It's worthwhile remembering that, in the final Danse sacral, the chosen one is literally dancing herself to death in the presence of the (dirty) old men (aka elders), so a sensitive-new-age-guy rendition of the drum thwacks just isn't going to cut it. ;-)
- Lucky for us, there's at least 20 high res Rites from which to choose. - jdaniel@jps.net 18:53:07 10/21/16 (5)
  Personally I don't think the Bergen orchestra was up to the task; quite clueless in fact, to the narrative, careful articulation and occasionally charming piccolo flutterings notwithstanding.
  To be fair, by the final dance, the bass drum activity seems far less crass and peanut gallery-esque, so why the indiscriminate banging earlier on? Was Litton trying to get an 80s-like Telarc buzz going in the media?
  I've seen the Rite live with MTT when he was recording for RCA way back when, (I recall he turned and glared at a cold war-era cougher who couldn't hold back during the opening bassoon solo.)
  Percussion was weighty and loud but not obnoxiously so.
  
  I know critics rave over the Litton, but these are the same people like Gergiev doing pretty much anything, so what can one do?
  
  Edits: 10/21/16 10/21/16
  - The "indiscriminate banging" is your conceit - not reality [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 00:53:51 10/22/16 (4)
    - (BTW - I mean something like a poetic conceit, not chutzpah!) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 01:11:09 10/22/16 (3)
      - No worries, one man's indiscriminate banging is another man's Shostakovich 7th. : ) nt - jdaniel@jps.net 09:45:50 10/22/16 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: (BTW - I mean something like a poetic conceit, not chutzpah!) [nt] posted by Chris from Lafayette on October 22, 2016 at 01:11:09
        
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        indiscriminate banging- OK, that's enough about your Sex Life...! nt - oldmkvi 13:43:30 10/29/16 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: No worries, one man's indiscriminate banging is another man's Shostakovich 7th. : ) nt posted by jdaniel@jps.net on October 22, 2016 at 09:45:50
        
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        Ha ha. At my age, "indiscriminate banging" usually involves stubborn pill bottles and bathroom sink edges. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 16:59:12 10/29/16 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: indiscriminate banging- OK, that's enough about your Sex Life...! nt posted by oldmkvi on October 29, 2016 at 13:43:30
        
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