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In Reply to: RE: "sound like crap" posted by Chris from Lafayette on October 19, 2016 at 21:50:48
Setting them low.But you should encourage Jdaniel and anyone else (oldmkvi, TGR, Russel) we know from around the Bay Area and make a trip over here this weekend some time for a Classical Music listen.
Bring music and we promise:
Only ONE HIP track.
Only ONE Shosty Symphony (a short one)
More than one 'Babe piano and violin)Quick, before the wife gets back.
Deal?
Edits: 10/20/16Follow Ups:
but jdaniel claims to be busy 'working'. Somebody has to be paying into SS so the rest of us can retire I guess.
Know anyone else who would like to join us?
'dress' code optional. ;-)
Darn! I was planning on reimbursing you for a special eClassical download of the BIS Litton/Bergen Rite of Spring! ;-)
BTW, I know someone else here on this board who thinks that the Litton/Bergen bass drum on their Rite of Spring, although quite powerful, sounds COMPLETELY NATURAL, and, gee, I don't want to say too much, but this person is an actual orchestral player. Don't know if he'll speak up however - LOL! ;-)
D'oh! Stop the presses - I may have to change a rehearsal I have scheduled for tonight at UC Berkeley to Sunday. (I didn't realize there's a Cal football game tonight - I'm from Stanford, but I still say, "Go Bears" - unless they're playing Stanford - LOL!) Stay tuned.
Ummm....
I've played in orchestras and bands too. I didn't say it's poorly balanced as a recording but rather poorly balanced from an artistic perspective. Like putting a truck horn in a smart car--IMHO the Bergen orchestra's sound just isn't weighty enough to back up such indescrete thwacks and the results are comical.
Now, during the Dance of the Geezers, it's appropriately reigned in.
And in fact what I heard (in multi-channel) was quite a variety of thwacks - with the tonal weight of the Bergen PO always equal to the task, no matter what the weight of the thwacks was.
It's worthwhile remembering that, in the final Danse sacral, the chosen one is literally dancing herself to death in the presence of the (dirty) old men (aka elders), so a sensitive-new-age-guy rendition of the drum thwacks just isn't going to cut it. ;-)
Personally I don't think the Bergen orchestra was up to the task; quite clueless in fact, to the narrative, careful articulation and occasionally charming piccolo flutterings notwithstanding.To be fair, by the final dance, the bass drum activity seems far less crass and peanut gallery-esque, so why the indiscriminate banging earlier on? Was Litton trying to get an 80s-like Telarc buzz going in the media?
I've seen the Rite live with MTT when he was recording for RCA way back when, (I recall he turned and glared at a cold war-era cougher who couldn't hold back during the opening bassoon solo.)
Percussion was weighty and loud but not obnoxiously so.
I know critics rave over the Litton, but these are the same people like Gergiev doing pretty much anything, so what can one do?
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