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In Reply to: RE: Josef Krips posted by TGR on November 06, 2015 at 16:15:40
My first reaction on reading your post is that you are greatly underestimating the reputation of Krips. At least among musicians, he has always been very well respected! And yes, he was well known for his Mahler.
This next comment may irritate some audiophiles, but Krips is a great example of a conductor who they always underestimate simply because they ignore anything that isn't really well recorded. Abbado, one of the all time greats in pretty much every orchestral musician's opinion, is another whose reputation is much lower among audiophiles than it is among concert goers in general, for the same reason - he simply wasn't that well recorded for much of his career, so audiophiles blew him off because they didn't like the sound of his recordings. The opposite is sometimes true as well. It is fascinating how many vinyl collectors worship the recordings of some conductors simply because they were well recorded in the "golden age" of vinyl, but really they weren't that great. I'll refrain from naming names, as there were of course many great conductors in that era as well.
Incidentally, you are not far off with your remarks about traditional Viennese composers - Mahler is, after all, a direct descendant of theirs, musically speaking, including the Viennese part even, for much of his career. Usually anyone who is well grounded in the First Viennese school should do just fine with Mahler as well.
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. . . but I posted under the OP at the top of this thread. My point was that many of the Krips recordings were very well engineered for their time and are themselves part of the "golden age of stereo" legacy.
His Beethoven symphony cycle with the LSO on Everest, and his Beethoven piano concerto cycle with Rubinstein on RCA, both from the late 50s. OTOH, Everest was a small label, and he may have been chosen by RCA to record the piano concertos because of a big falling out between Rubinstein and Reiner. Or so I've read.
He conducted a fine bunch of Mozart symphonies (21-41) with the Concertgebouw Orchestra for Phillips; these are still available, and a couple have been released as a Pentatone SACD as well.
Krips also conducted Brahms Concerto 2 with Rubinstein in a 1958 recording.
Yes, exactly right. I noticed the same thing when I first began to hang around audiophile and LP collector discussion groups. Certain conductors and soloists -- and recordings -- have cult status they don't deserve, other great ones are ignored. One example of a cult violinist mentioned below is Johanna Martzy. Mention her name to a violinist and you'll likely get a puzzled look.
Edits: 11/07/15
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