• Involve Electrostatics from down under - Satie 13:00:05 05/16/15 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 14:19:07

  

  http://involveaudio.com/esp-sonic-panels/
  
  They have a unique design with two panels and a forward facing wing in a triangular layout
  
  Each speaker has a forward facing panel and a side facing panel and the wing prevents direct radiation from the side facing panel from arriving at the listener.
  
  Their signature product includes a subwoofer and a processor that does some L+R and L-R manipulation to increase spatial resolution (or so they say)
  
  Anyone come across these?
  

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  • RE: Involve Electrostatics from down under - BruceS 21:39:48 05/16/15 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: Involve Electrostatics from down under posted by Satie on May 16, 2015 at 13:00:05

    They had them on display at the Melbourne HiFi show late last year.
    Did not hear them.
    It was very early days for them back then.
    The guy that I spoke to about them was very excited.
    These are the people who sold the Sonic Blades.
    Hope that helps.
    Bruce
    

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• I find it very interesting - mbnx01 12:56:42 05/15/15 (3)
  In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 14:19:07

  Here's a full range (ok, close) stat, made in Europe, delivered to your door for two grand and no one seems interested.
  
  Don't know what this means, but it's interesting.
  
  
  
  
  
  "A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
  
  -Mark Twain
  
  

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  • RE: I find it very interesting - Satie 13:07:51 05/15/15 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: I find it very interesting posted by mbnx01 on May 15, 2015 at 12:56:42

    I would not read too much into this lack of response.
    
    There is no long established presence, no cult following and little presence on the show circuit. Reviews in English are pretty much confined to Olsher's piece on the predecessor model (and company) and Wally's good word.
    
    If you can point to alternative reviews that might spark some discussion. Besides that, most of us have speakers we already like, mostly planar magnetic. Note that ML stats don't get that much discussion here either.. And the latter are iconic and the CLS has its own Johnstown like cult.
    

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    • RE: I find it very interesting also - robss 16:58:32 05/15/15 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: I find it very interesting posted by Satie on May 15, 2015 at 13:07:51

      I noted the same sort of response...seems very quiet here since Peter Gunn left. Now there is another other (sponsored?) forum for Maggies. Our forum here has always been pretty much Maggie-centric, due to it being an outgrowth of the MUG. And ML have a (sponsored) forum elsewhere also.
      
      The Essence: I was surprised when I found out that the person who used to market JansZen speakers (briefly), Bob Rappaport (sp?), was the same person who is listed as the importer/dist. for the Essence. I would like to hear the Essence, even though I have modded MG1.6s and JansZens to listen to. Not much market presence in these here States.
      
      Happy Listening,
      robss
      

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      • RE: I find it very interesting also - Satie 22:11:50 05/15/15 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: I find it very interesting also posted by robss on May 15, 2015 at 16:58:32

        There was nothing like PG and the tyu to spark discord and drama. It caused an exodus of the more civilized folks, but kicking out the repeat offenders took the spark out of the forum.
        But the main thing is that there were other things for people to do over the last few years in the digital domain where digital processing, downloads, DSD and streaming services have kept people's attention rather than tweaking or upgrading speakers.
        
        I like the Essence design as it actually has a tweeter like a 2 way - like the King sound.speakers. but uses new materials for ESLs and does them in reverse - with the signal applied to the thickish membrane and the bias is on the stators. .
        

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• RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - davidbeinct 07:46:10 05/12/15 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 14:19:07

  I've been intrigued by this company for some time, as my late and lamented Acoustat 1+1s are still my "Holy Grail" for speaker performance.
  
  I am currently running old Alon Model IVs, and what they do right, they do very right, but I still feel like something is missing compared to 'stats.
  
  The price for the Essence is obviously intriguing. Their business model has gone through multiple changes. At one time they were using dealers, one was Wally at Underwood HiFi. I wonder what any former dealers would say about them.
  
  I even more wonder if anyone has HEARD them?
  

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  • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - Utley1 10:03:44 05/12/15 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by davidbeinct on May 12, 2015 at 07:46:10

    If this is at all useful: Exchanged E-mail with B. R. US sales. The speakers are made in Holland- a big plus...I tryto avoid China when I can.The two models that are being discounted have exactly the same specification- the choice is how you would place them in your room. One caveat is that may need a sub woofer- Own the Mag 1.7 and have gotten by with one with classical and jazz.Trying to fund out if my differential amps would work with these.But then again have a clue about how they actually sound. Like the idea of getting clarity at low volumes-my one deficit with my Mags living in a NYC apt. Would never give them up but have space Essence.
    

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    • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - davidbeinct 10:50:32 05/12/15 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by Utley1 on May 12, 2015 at 10:03:44

      Do you mean gotten by "WITHOUT" one for classical and jazz (subwoofer that is)?
      

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      • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - Utley1 11:18:40 05/12/15 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by davidbeinct on May 12, 2015 at 10:50:32

        Yes : Would love the lower octaves of the organ but the 1.7 suffices. Do not want to tamper with the sense of space and live performance....It is a very balanced speaker but the one draw back is that to get the dynamics it works best with moderate volume. Essnce if it can creat a dramtic field might be helpful for after 10PM
        

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  • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - mbnx01 09:32:09 05/12/15 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by davidbeinct on May 12, 2015 at 07:46:10

    Wally says they're a bargain at four grand.
    
    I don't know ANYONE who has heard them (other than Wally).
    
    
    "A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
    
    -Mark Twain
    
    

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• RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - Utley1 15:27:29 05/11/15 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 14:19:07

  Most intriguing-less than the price of a dental implant by half.
  

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  • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - mbnx01 15:30:29 05/11/15 (3)
    In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by Utley1 on May 11, 2015 at 15:27:29

    Cheaper (barely) than 1.7's.
    
    
    "A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
    
    -Mark Twain
    
    

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    • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - Utley1 16:10:21 05/11/15 (2)
      In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 15:30:29

      Curious to know if they are Dutch made. Own the 1'7's so I am doubly curious. Like the 1.7's very much .Owned the ML CLS briefly before flood hit Brklyn loft. Very refined but never quite balanced, the strength of the 1.7.They play loud; which the CLS did not without rattling. Anyways, have begun inquiry-just something to fool with after dental payments. Dick Oscher wrote a favorable freview of the Essence 1000i thoght they afre easy to drive. Impedance with my Emotiva XPA1 mono block would ease things.(They I hav e bee told do not work well with ML). Osher said gthese afre not a tough load.
      

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      • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - mbnx01 16:18:32 05/11/15 (1)
        In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by Utley1 on May 11, 2015 at 16:10:21

        These are smaller than 1.7's, don't require as much room, sound better at lower levels.
        
        At least that's what I've heard.
        
        
        
        
        
        "A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
        
        -Mark Twain
        
        

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        • RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% - Utley1 16:59:08 05/11/15 (0)
          In Reply to: RE: Essence Electrostats drop their price 50% posted by mbnx01 on May 11, 2015 at 16:18:32

          That is the one deficit of the 1.7' --do need volume to get the dynamics. As I play a lot of organ music am surprised how well they do. And do more than suggest lower octaves without subs.(Cannot do in an apt in NYC- it would be war.) But reliable statics are something else. I was thinking of the 63" speaker . Seemed to be making uses of mylar in "printed" form? No subs...Just wonder how they can make so inexpensively and if they can be serviced...
          

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