• Limage CAN Work - Swamis Cat 13:19:26 04/28/15 (2)
  In Reply to: RE: The Limage works. posted by zulugone on April 28, 2015 at 12:28:57

  My experience with Limage is mixed. It has pros and cons in my room and gear with my listening tastes.
  
  My room is 20 X 14 and I have two models -- a refurbished set of 3a's and a new set of 3.7i's which I can swap in or out. (Obviously I listen almost exclusively to the new ones -- and the old fellas are usually kept upstairs). I also have a pair of DWM's and a Rhythmic Sub which I can use or not use depending upon what sounds best.
  
  The benefit of Limage set up in my room with my speakers is amazing, otherworldly soundstage and imaging. Everything is behind the speakers and spread out with realism. I can hear and see depth. In addition, image size is laser focused -- an acoustic guitar naturally miked sounds exactly guitar sized with no image blur or waiver even across frequency extremes.
  
  The problem with Limage in my room with my newer speakers is that everything becomes slightly ghostly or ethereal. Instruments and dynamics are nowhere near as clear or crisp and bass loses some snap. In addition, micro dynamics are kind of lost.
  
  I can regain a bit of the dynamic punch by aiming the tweeters directly at the listening seat. But I get significantly more by moving the speakers and listening position to a more traditional rule of thirds setup. This gives a more natural and lively tone to all music, but at the expense of the huge and holographic Limage soundstage.
  
  To be frank, I switch back and forth between the two. I have all the key positions marked, and can switch the room in minutes. Whenever I switch I always find the improvement to be dramatic -- regardless whether I am going forward or back. Last night I moved to the rule of thirds setting and was extremely impressed by how much better everything sounded. The speakers sound much more expensive. When I swith back to Limage or Limage with toe in, I will be impressed by how much better the soundstage gets and how much more I am drawn into the music.
  
  For what it is worth. I am sure results would differ with the room. They also differ based upon model -- the i's are much more directional imo.
  
  
  

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  • RE: Limage CAN Work - Roger Gustavsson 22:41:27 04/28/15 (1)
    In Reply to: RE: Limage CAN Work posted by Swamis Cat on April 28, 2015 at 13:19:26

    Limage does not work in my room. The focus is blurred and the soundstaging is ill defined. I think the area behind the speakers need a lot of attention with a Limage setup. In my room, I still get a better result with widely spaced 3.6, backwave going into the corners, tweeters on the outside and heavily toed-in.
    

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    • RE: Limage CAN Work - Bigjimsguitars 14:08:52 04/29/15 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: Limage CAN Work posted by Roger Gustavsson on April 28, 2015 at 22:41:27

      I think so much is the room itself and what it brings to the table. I have been fiddling around a bit more and the rule of 3rds work the best for my room. Have about 12 degree of toe-in and have them leaning forward about 7 degrees, this is where the soundstsge is the purest and without any smear.
      
      Jim
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