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In Reply to: RE: A message from Wendell at Magnepan posted by gtb75 on January 19, 2011 at 07:20:49

"My wife, Galina, was one of the people on the listening panel. She is a Russian immigrant (55 yrs. old) and was earning $300 per month in Russia (with 2 children). She didn't even have a kitchen radio, although she did hear live music."

Here we have a case of being given way too much information. No one on this forum needed to know that. I fail to see what was the point of disclosing this detail on a public forum (actually, make that plural -- his intention reportedly was to cross post this on many forums/fora).

"The president, Mark Winey, wanted the assurance that "normal" people could hear the improvement of the new models."

It's nice to be called 'abnormal'. Makes it all worthwhile, you know.

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I think he would have placed himself - josh358 18:25:18 01/23/11 (0)
and those guys from Audio Research in the "abnormal" category. So I don't think an insult was intended.
Yeah, cause he coulda said it was his 20 year old lover ... - Webnick 19:05:42 01/21/11 (0)
rather than his wife that auditioned Maggies ... or said he only auditioned Maggies in his boxers ... or that they had not tried any tweaks except razoring, which they loved because it was so warm and cuddly but couldn't afford, and hated hardwood frames, because it was way too bourgeois and they needed the wood for their fireplaces ... or ...

... ho hum - its just the asylum after all.

Illegitimus non carborundum.
Planar ASYLUM; therefore... - bobcole 12:07:21 01/21/11 (0)
Just my opinion, but...

Nothing good comes from analyzing word choice, sentence structure, et.al. searching for signs of inadequacy or malice in an Internet forum post. They will be perceived whether or not they are significant or real.

So what if Mr. Diller gave more info on some things, and less on others than needed? Nobody is perfect, and everyone has those lapses.

Wendell was clearly trying to amplify the point that Magnepan only changes their products when those changes are heard as improvements by the broad spectrum of listeners, from experienced audiophiles with "tuned ears" (my words) to folks who've had little or no experience in this area; and also when the audibility of those changes justifies the cost of implementation.

He gave us examples of those sample listeners, from experienced staff at ARC to a woman with no prior exposure to high quality audio, but familiarity with the sound of live music. Why would anyone care that he told us more about one of those individuals than some want to know? To others (like me) it might be interesting, humanizing, and descriptive of Magnepan's process.

Audio tweakers clearly ARE abnormal vs. the typical audio equipment buyer. That's why this is called the Planar Asylum. There's nothing inherently negative about that, just a fact. The ideas generated here are often on or beyond the edge of convention - tweakers are experimenters, and that is what lead to the very development of Magnepan speakers.

The company is just trying to acknowledge the objectives of the tweakers here, and that they also experiment. But for rational economic reasons they only put into production improvements most everyone WILL hear, and tweakers tend to hear nuances that escape the average, perhaps-less-critical listener. I believe that shows they monitor discussions here, and they hear the criticisms about design, parts selection and manufacturing quality. That they chose to respond AT ALL to such a small group is sign of respect. If there they had none, they would have said nothing.

Internet forums are like pubs: a bunch of (usually) guys shooting the breeze, some being serious, some productively and genially contrary, some disruptive and itching for a fight, and many just observing. In a pub we can use all senses to see eyes, expressions, body language and maintain order. Can't do that on the Internet, where things easily degenerate into useless or worse talk radio-type brawls, unless participants assume best intentions and try to take the high road. The brawls feel good to a few, but are just a waste for most.

But what the hell, maybe dysfunction of the herd is a virture.
This* is* called an asylum, you know (-; - Rod H. 10:47:24 01/21/11 (0)
A little too much info is better than a little too little, IMHO.
RE: "Normal" people - IEaudiodude 10:20:23 01/21/11 (0)
I see it as us being "beyond normal" in a good way ,we are after all refining an already good speaker that the people who can't, won't or don't DIY their system to get peak performance out of each piece of their gear.I guess that makes me a glass half full inmate.....

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