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In Reply to: RE: Hafler HA-15 Solid State posted by Dawnrazor on May 01, 2020 at 09:54:06
Hey DR,
Apologies for busting into this thread with off topic stuff.
Received the BBE Sonic Max about 3 weeks ago and now have about 80 hours on it.
This thing really ups my enjoyment of the music I play here! Most of the time, I have the left knob set between 12 & 1 O'clock and the right hand knob set at 1 O'clock, with the amp. vol control set between 9 & 10 O'clock. Full, tuneful, solid, and well defined bass!!! I just can't get this with eq or vol control.
I wonder how this piece would be on a speaker system?..Anyway, thank you for the heads-up!!!
Take care and stay safe!!!!!
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HA! Now I have it in writing. Dawnrazor is NOT crazy or losing it!!!
I am sooo glad you dig it. Man I was skeptical that a cheap piece in between the dac and amp would do more than mess things up. But damn man I can't live without it!!
I have the Lo Contour set to 1pm and the Process knob at 12pm. I rarely touch them but its nice to have that kind of control for some recordings.
The question I had was "would this work for headphones?" since its actually designed for speakers. So no worries there...but it works great on speakers.
It has really changed my audio goals. Was solidly in the purist don't process the signal camp and now total 180.
One thing that it allows me to do is that I modded the headphones (much like my maggies) to be over damped. The bass is reduced but the clarity is increased. With the BBE and the VOX switch on the Hafler I can bring up the bass to compensate and get extension AND resolution. Its a revelation.
Always wanting to improve I looked into things. BBE makes a higher end model where you can adjust channels independently but that is most likely for the studio. I can't see in a stereo system where one would ever get the left and right channels balanced the same. Also someone on the Planar asylum mention that Aphex had a similar product and that they were much better, etc. It appears that product is disconnected.
I describe the difference as imagine you are at a club and the band is playing on stage but the lights arent on. Engaging the BBE is like turning on the lights.... you can now see (hear) sooo much more.
You nailed it man, no eq or volume control will do what this thing does and at $130 its value ratio is obscene. The dough it will save me chasing perfection when its often just a knob turn away....
And fwiw I have been thinking about getting some Sen HD600 or 650 or probably the 660s. But always stopped because the bass is not what I get with planars. Well if I lowered the bass extension by over damping things and the BBE brought it back maybe a pair of Senns would respond the same?
May be worth an experiment...but man I need soundstage.
So glad it is working out for you dude.
Cut to razor sounding violins
DR,
What you say about turning on the lights is exactly correct!!!!
Funny thing, I had my younger son come over to have a listen with his cans and he asked to borrow the Max. I told him NO, but I would get him one. I don't want to be without it, even for a short time!!!..LOL...
Oh, and for the rca version, it's only 100 bananas....
LMAO. You know its good when you will pay dough to not be without it!
IMHO its like the biggest improvement for $100 I can think of. Way off the charts for value.
As you said, way more than an eq. Mine now has hat envy...
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"When you will pay dough to not be without it"...Good point!!!..It went right over my head when i wrote it..hahahaha
Hat envy!!!!!...Too funny!!!!..Maybe I can find a hat for your Max!!!
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