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See article. I wonder how many people even know that they're required to pay use tax on out-of-state purchases?- Use Tax
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make sure to file this so that you pay taxes on it. i was like yeaaaaaaaaaa right and just told her "ok". anyway, the computer came sans tax. i bought another in 2000 and they automatically charge tax now...go figure.
If any online store that you choose to buy from, has a retail outlet anywhere in your state, they're obliged to charge sales tax to anyone from that state that purchases - online or not.
And I thought Canada held the top position in inventing new taxes!
at least in Virginia, where the law has been on the books since 1966.
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Riiigggttt....I'll just go and knock on my state tax adjusters door and give him my total for audiogon, ebay and internet purchases and say, "please increase my totals by 7% because I really didn't want to save money shopping online anyway". Also, please tax all of my audio purchases which I made 10 miles south of me in Oregon where there is no sales tax. Even though my equipment isn't available in my home state I feel you should still get a cut.The pathetic part about this whole funding crunch is that nobody is batting an eye at the huge offenders who funnel profits to offshore accounts to dodge their taxes. Lets just start busting on the little guy even though we have to set up a huge network of government workers to snag the few bucks most people would have to cough up in taxes on internet purchases.
Most states do not call these anything other than sales taxes which you are supposed to render to your state if it has sales taxes. Five do not. The internet is driving sales tax states crazy as they are losing hundreds of millions of tax dollars. Ultimately there will either be a national sales tax redistributed to all participating states (highly unlikely) or states will abandon the regressive sales tax for state income taxes including the five states that do not have an income tax now.
and it's not just states.In PA, where I grew up, they have a 6% state sales tax, but no local or county sales taxes (I'm guessing by law). In Colorado, where I now live, the state sales tax is a much lower 2.9%, but most cities and counties also impose a sales tax. It becomes quite a mess, with taxes running anywhere from 3% or so up to 7.5%, sometimes at places a 1/4 mile apart. But, just like purchasing out of state, you can often pay a lower sales tax rate by purchasing retail outside of the city limits.
But of course this comes right around again to the city and county use taxes - you're _supposed_ to pay the city a use tax if you purchase an item outside of the city.
Our state gross receipts tax is 6.25 percent, but cities, counties, transit districts, and other authorities are allowed to ultimately add 2 additional percent.The major problem, only solved by having a retail outlet in a state, is enforcement. This is why the internet will ultimately kill state sales taxes.
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and vote the idiots out. Me, I like New Hampshire's approach. No sales tax, no income tax. A high property tax (which is really the only fair tax) as you can at least see where your money goes. Schools, libraries, fire, police, local government instead of some blackhole where they spend crazily because it has to go somewhere so they can justify why they need even more. As long as politicians get to spend other peoples money who cares what it cost. Like when those bozo politicians call it their money and how they know spend it better than the pwople making it and say they cannot afford tax cuts. LOL!!! Hence why taxes never go down once they get their greedy hands on them.Done ranting.
New Hampshire's approach: no services and outrageous property taxes. Now that's sheer genius, isn't it. Like it or not, infrastructure takes money, and there is a cost to everything, including not funding the education of other people's kids.Please take this topic to the Outside Forum as Vinyl suggests where you can complain "bout them nasty poly-tishans 'n Big Guvermint till ya turn blue" just like the rest of us.
Your response made absolutely no sense.Do you know what you get for your property taxes?
And your response made no sense either. Take it outside.
It is a pain when one cannot read....Have a good day outside. ;)
I am surprised the Europeans have not weighed in. We are the least taxed developed democracy. It is true that NH has neither a sales tax nor an income tax, but residents also have no services and have very high and regressive property taxes.
Sounds wonderful. I will pay my own way thank you very much. What we don't need is the socialist ideology. No offense to our European friends but I do not want to be like Europe. We in America are over taxed. We pay much more than my parents ever did. At the rate we are going my daughter will pay more than me.
The last 50 years we have hovered around 30 % of GNP in all taxes. If they were less wealthy than you, they probably paid a higher percentage of their income in taxes than you. You do have to pay your own way for medical services in this country. That is one service the Europeans get. I had to pay $3 for an antibiodic round in Italy!!I don't believe you about paying your own way either. You will take SS, you use public schools, you drive on roads, you have police, etc. I doubt whether you pay your own way on any of these.
My parents absolutely paid less of a percentage in taxes than I did (my father has shown me his tax returns from the 50's on, so I know of what I speak).Socialized medicine: my wife's family is Dutch. Her uncle had to wait months for heart surgery in the Netherlands. Near death, he finally received the surgery. Much longer recovery time; hard on an older gentlemen such as he. Socialized medicine you get what you pay for and that isn't much. Which is why alot of them come here for medical care. I'll pay my way, thank you.
Earlier, I stated that the only fair tax is the property tax, which pays for schools, police, fire, libraries, ambulance, etc. so I guess you sure zinged me there, didn't you??? Also, gas taxes pay for roads, about which is almost a third of the cost of a gallon so I'm paying as I go there also.
As for SS. I am not counting on it. By 2017 when I will be 60 more money will be going out then is coming in. So I doubt I will see any as the Senators and House representatives who do NOT pay anything in SS and whose pension (which is what they make now) is much better than the little peoples SS. I think their future brain storm will be if you make a certain income and although you paid your whole life in you get NOTHING or enough for a sixpack on a Friday night. Believe me I am not counting on SS and planned for the future in this regard.
Go to U.S. Statistical Abstracts and look under taxes. You will find how U.S. federal, state, and local taxes have varied over the years as well as how our taxes compare with other countries.I again do not believe you about wanting to pay your own way because government gives you nothing. Property taxes for example used to pay for most school costs, but now pay less than half. It does vary from state to state, with the NE most dependent on property taxes. The U.S. has one of the best health care systems but it is twice as expensive as any other and it is overwhelmingly paid by individuals. This is fine if you are wealthy, but we have 40 million uninsured people in the U.S. Hopefully no one who is uninsured gets SARS near you. I once proposed that we could use user pay systems for highways given present technology. Each year your car would report your miles driven. I once computed highway construction costs and repair for a year and divided by the number of miles driven by everyone that year. I came out at about $1 per mile driven. So if you drove the average of 15,000 miles, your yearly bill would be $15,000. The middle class who drive more would be outraged to receive such a bill.
I very people who bitch about taxes being too high pay the lowest percentage of their income into taxes. The poor here are the ones being screwed.
Norm, I know your profession so I can understand why you said the things you did. We have a large office in your state in Kansas City and a smaller one in St. Louis. We see the tax dollars flow in to the state coffers. I can only wish they spend it wisely. I know better having worked in government before.I think you have your facts wrong. It is against the law to not give a person medical treatment even if they have no insurance. Do you know how many BILLIONS they get in state and federal taxes on a gallon of gas? Did you know that all highway constuction is funded from this? Why would we need to pay more with your rational? Plus Norm the poor pay no taxes so they are not the ones complaining. In fact a family of four making $39000 per year pays no taxes. Payroll tax is another matter, I am talking federal. I know how much I paid and how they wish to steal even more from me. Believe me I am not a republican nor am I democrat, both parties spend like there is no tomorrow. Just high taxes and more taxes are not the answer to unresponsible spending.
I think you have your facts wrong. It is against the law to not give a person medical treatment even if they have no insurance.People cannot be refused medical treatment if they can get into an emergency room, but many die daily seeking such entry. Many more dies unable to get there.
Do you know how many BILLIONS they get in state and federal taxes on a gallon of gas? Did you know that all highway constuction is funded from this?
Absolutely untrue. Few states spend only gas taxes on highways and certainly not the federal government.
Why would we need to pay more with your rational? Plus Norm the poor pay no taxes so they are not the ones complaining. In fact a family of four making $39000 per year pays no taxes.
Federal income taxes? This is absolutely untrue of state and local taxes as well as social security and medicare taxes. You should know this living in NH.
Payroll tax is another matter, I am talking federal. I know how much I paid and how they wish to steal even more from me. Believe me I am not a republican nor am I democrat, both parties spend like there is no tomorrow. Just high taxes and more taxes are not the answer to unresponsible spending.
I do not know what a payroll tax is. State and local taxes are highly related to how wealthy a state's or city's public is. Mississippi, no matter how much in need of better schools or indigent health care or roads, cannot raise taxes higher or people would have difficulty providing other services for their families.
My argument simply is that you are not hurt by present taxes, do receive many government services, and should stop whinning.
Merry Christmas
"Absolutely untrue. Few states spend only gas taxes on highways and certainly not the federal government."Wrong wrong wrong Norm! I know this to be fact. Have you not heard for example that if a state does not lower the DUI to .08 that the Feds would hold their states share of highway funds from gas taxes? Norm come on! Oh, I am not in NH I am in Iowa. I have relatives in NH. I read a lot about things like this which interest me and know a little about each state.
Norm, payroll tax is SS. Your party says it is unfair the poor have to pay this tax. RIGHTTTT. In fact I will agree to disagree with you because it of no use when a person is uninfomed. I use the government services I pay to use (roads, schools, fire, police libraries etc). It is the many other things I do not use nor do others that is stupidly funded. I do complain and vote likewise because yes my taxes are too high. At least we can complain in this country.
Please don't take it personally I have nothing against you and I respect your opinion.
Merry Christmas to you too!
I too take no offense.Having lived in England and Italy, I can tell you that they complain constantly about taxes, while always being able to use available health care, even if they have to wait to get serious care.
The poor pay a larger percentage of their income in taxes in all states save Delaware, with Washington being the worst. This includes all taxes. Social Security is troublesome for me as it is regressive with the wealthy each year reaching a point where they no longer have to contribute. The same holds for medicare. But the system cannot pay for itself as the President has raided its surplus to partially cover his deficite. I cannot imagine what you do with those who cannot cover their life after being employable. We cannot just shoot them!
Iowa is an interesting state. It remains quite competitive and is the only state to not use entire partisan considerations when drawing district boundaries for congressional and legislative seats.
Norm, you are a good fellow and you think like some friends some of whom are professors too. Nothing wrong with that. As they say politics make strange bedfellows.Are you going to the show next month? If I go maybe I will see you there. I promise not to talk politics. :)
You got to understand that I teach at Texas A&M. There is not a more conservative student body anywhere, and I teach a required course on state and local politics. At the end of each term my 300 plus students often argue as to whether I am conservative or liberal. I know that must surprise you. My father was an ardent Taft Republican and one of my grandfathers was a communist from Russia before the Soviet Union and the other a trolley car driver and a union member. All of this lead to interesting exchanges. I grew up hearing your sort of nonsense as well as that from the left.
Great. Although I would not call high taxes nonsense University faculty should come out to the real world where you cannot count on tenure and so forth. But that is another story. Still Norm no matter what you say taxes are WAY TO HIGH and I feel mine are way too HIGH.By the way A&M is a great Ag school. Plus that school is one of the least leftest schools too LOL! It is good to hear you are not teaching one sided views. :-)
> > My parents absolutely paid less of a percentage in taxes than I did (my father has shown me his tax returns from the 50's on, so I know of what I speak) < <A single isolated example doesn't prove anything about the overall tax rate then or now. What was your father's salary a half -century ago compared to the average salary? Maybe he was earning a low salary and so was being taxed at the lowest rate then, while you're earning a higher salary by today's standards and so are taxed in a higher bracket.
Here's a quote from an article by Princeton economics professor Paul Krugman, who has rather more expertise in this area than you or I:
Aren't taxes much higher than they used to be? Not if we're looking back over the past 30 years. As a share of G.D.P., federal taxes are currently at their lowest point since the Eisenhower administration. State and local taxes rose substantially between 1960 and the early 1970's, but have been roughly stable since then. Aside from the capital gains taxes paid during the bubble years, the share of income Americans pay in taxes has been flat since Richard Nixon was president.Of course, overall levels of taxation don't necessarily tell you how heavily particular individuals and families are taxed. As it turns out, however, middle-income Americans, like the country as a whole, haven't seen much change in their overall taxes over the past 30 years. On average, families in the middle of the income distribution find themselves paying about 26 percent of their income in taxes today. This number hasn't changed significantly since 1989, and though hard data are lacking, it probably hasn't changed much since 1970.
Meanwhile, wealthy Americans have seen a sharp drop in their tax burden. The top tax rate -- the income-tax rate on the highest bracket -- is now 35 percent, half what it was in the 1970's. With the exception of a brief period between 1988 and 1993, that's the lowest rate since 1932. Other taxes that, directly or indirectly, bear mainly on the very affluent have also been cut sharply. The effective tax rate on corporate profits has been cut in half since the 1960's. The 2001 tax cut phases out the inheritance tax, which is overwhelmingly a tax on the very wealthy: in 1999, only 2 percent of estates paid any tax, and half the tax was paid by only 3,300 estates worth more than $5 million.
The 2003 tax act sharply cuts taxes on dividend income, another boon to the very well off. By the time the Bush tax cuts have taken full effect, people with really high incomes will face their lowest average tax rate since the Hoover administration.
So here's the picture: Americans pay low taxes by international standards. Most people's taxes haven't gone up in the past generation; the wealthy have had their taxes cut to levels not seen since before the New Deal. Even before the latest round of tax cuts, when compared with citizens of other advanced nations or compared with Americans a generation ago, we had nothing to complain about -- and those with high incomes now have a lot to celebrate. Yet a significant number of Americans rage against taxes, and the party that controls all three branches of the federal government has made tax cuts its supreme priority.
Quote from Mr. Krugman refers to fairly level tax burden over the last 30 years. Previous poster talked about his father's taxes from the 1950's. 30 years from now is 1973. Even if we assume late 1950's that is 44+ years ago. Only bit of Krugman's analysis that applies is this bit:"As a share of G.D.P., federal taxes are currently at their lowest point since the Eisenhower administration. State and local taxes rose substantially between 1960 and the early 1970's, but have been roughly stable since then."
So I'd say this supports the original poster's claim. From the 1950's to today his taxes are likely to have increased over what his dad paid due to the "substantial" rise in state and local taxes over that time period.
But I respect your opinion.As for my Father's salary based on inflation his salary would be in today dollars around $230K. Up until 1988 you were able to write almost everything under the sun off your taxes. Not today.
I don't know what the good professor based his facts on but I am sure there are others who will beg to differ. After all its just his opinion without showing any facts.
Again I agree taxes are too high. Way too high unless of course you don't pay any.
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