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In Reply to: No credibility gap here. posted by John Marks on June 22, 2003 at 06:39:06:
You are oh so concerned about us audiophiles, aren't you?
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It is precisely because I do care about audiophiles that I am reluctant to let enthusiasm lead people down the garden path of non-cost effective restoration projects.For the money it would take to get a set of ESL 63s with blown panels running again there are a lot of good speakers you can get--probably even two pairs of ESL 63s.
If you had read my column in the July issue, you would have seen my recommending used EAD digital as a valid option in the $500-1000 price range.
You keep claiming that I am selling gear and serving advertisers.
That just proves you have never bothered to read my columns.
Actually, I prefer it that way.
I can't relate to your prose.Ok, I could parse and precisely pick over what you've written. You seem sincere. Is life too short for this kind of exercise?
You pick the example of a Quad with problems. Why not talk about properly working examples of classic gear, for starters. Artful dodger?
You wrote:I can't relate to your prose.
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That's OK!
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As for the QUAD Issue: 100% of the ESL 63s I have personally encountered on offer used (locally) have been to some extent broken. 100%.
As I said, I recommended used EAD digital in the current newsstand issue. When used gear is competitive with what can be had new, and is not just a fetish, I will recommend it.
But I am not the guy who is going to blow the horn for old Voice of the Theater speakers or 4-pin tube amps with oil capacitors.
There ARE magazines that cover those things, and do it well. And not one of them has 10% of the readership of Stereophile.
I write for music lovers who want advice on equipment that can deliver more than a one-brand system from Best Buy. I hear from my readers directly by email every month. I know what they own and what they want to know.
I get a lot more emails asking about integrated amps at $3,000 to $7,000 than I have ever gotten asking about kits (never) or sub-$500 amps (never).
I am going to continue to write my column to make my readers and JA happy.
Perhaps a lot of people at AA should spend more time actively supporting the magazines that do cover kits and DIY than faulting Stereophile for not covering things that don't make sense to most of Stereophile's readers.
Cordially,
John
Yes, a well stated, cogent and complete argument - you've given us all a lot to think about. It's all a conspiracy, and us poor audiophiles are the victims, having no minds of our own.The mere fact that a publication with the breadth and distribution of Stereophile would even bother with an internet asylum speaks volumes to their credibility, especially with an asylum so continuously critical like yourself (however probably 99% of such posts are made by 1% of the users).
When I first came to this page, I found volumes of negative opinions about the Quad ESL 988/989 - to the point where if I didn't own them (and if I believed the posts) I would never have bought them. One other newbie later came to the page and posted to ask "why everyone hates the Quads" - he was in fact thinking of buying them before that. My answer was to - in short - "consider the source" of the posts, as not one of the posters actually owned the Quads - and referred him to audioreview.com where posters all own the equipment, and the Quad 989 is rated 5 stars by everyone but one poster (who "heard them twice at a store" in unfamiliar surroundings, with unfamiliar equipment and recordings but posted nonetheless).
I think almost all the users on AA are great, but the small percentage cause so much problem, and taint us all. Sometimes the action is just too fast and furious on AA, and bad things get posted and preserved forevermore - fast and furious is fun, but thinking before you post is wise.
In fact, in this post JM stated that instead of firing back at all the "stereophile haters" out there, he instead decided to "turn the other cheek" and include the asylyum to the point where it could actually influence a nationally distributed magazine's choices for review - presumably to rectify the "conspiracy" that had continued to now I suppose. I think most asylum users thank stereophile for that, and have surely gotten a bit of a thrill from it. I'm not that good at turning the other cheek, personally, but admire those who are. Attitudes like yours however will keep the larger publications away in droves however - after all, turning the other cheek and participating here ain't gonna sell them any more product either.
No I ain't kissin ass, but the first issue of stereophile is still on my shelf, circa 1991, and have been reading them + TAS ever since - so this little rant is my payback for a decade of great reading. AA is great too, something new every few hours - but as someone happier with my system than I've ever been, I'll soon retire from the sport too - but will still keep reading the major mags just for the fun of it...
Victims? Huh? How do you see yourself as a "Victim"? By the way, victims never heal.
OK, JGH made some mistakes during his reign at SP and I've mentioned them. But he had integrity. He also had taste.As it stands, SP is the mouthpiece of organization audiophilia manufacturia. Yer pies yer money and yer tykes yer chice.
Yep. Classics are sought after.Must be a reason some are paying out the big buck even in this time of economic depression.
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