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In Reply to: Re: I'm NOT with you on this one (-" posted by J10Scull on March 11, 2005 at 15:39:45:
From what I can see a set of Jensen audio isolators for 120.00 from Markertek gives you isolation, RFI rejection, no wall warts, near flat frequency response, lower distortion,(if that's still an issue)and for less money than these cables from what I understand. Of course it doesn't have the inconvience that most audiophiles truly desire.
d.b.
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> for less money than these cables from what I understand.Ah, but how do they sound?
You know, like when Larry "The Buzzard" King leans into his mic and grates out "Howww does it feeeeeel..."
> Of course it doesn't have the inconvience that most audiophiles truly desire.
From what I can tell from your reply or lack there of as the case maybe, I'll stick with the transformers. They don't have much of a "sound" when used properly, and for some of us; that's the approach we are looking for.
The Ever Evil Doctor Steel
> From what I can tell from your reply or lack there ofWell, I... don't know what you expected, Dan. "Xformers are bad because..." or "Cyber is better because..."
I've talked about the operation of the cables when others have misunderstood, and tried to make their advantages clear. I don't feel like it's right for me to fill up a message lauding their sound and will the reviews on PFO, and upcoming in Stereophile and 6moons speak to that. I know Tim de P's work, I've listened to his xformer-coupled components, and they were totally terrific. I used the Expressive step-up for a long while, and can appreciate xformers for what they are and how they can be made to perform.
This is something else, another approach to the problem. Maybe they'll sound the same as xformers, and if so, the xformers would be the way to go, obviously. But if you compare the two and the Cyber seduces you way beyond what you thought possible, then it's worth the extra money for those who feel they prefer it.
> I'll stick with the transformers. They don't have much of a "sound" when used properly,
C'mon, you're stretching my words to fit your attitude, Dan. Clearly I'm not saying the CyberLights have a "sound" in the sense you're using. In fact, quite the opposite, having disposed of major sources of interference in the signal.
There are some adjustments to make, of course, like hearing the upper ranges without a scrim of noise making the sound edgy, and that goes for the entire frequency range. That promotes a kind of continuousness (for want of a better word) that also allows the lister to relax into the music. But I'll let the reviewers speak to that.
> and for some of us; that's the approach we are looking for.
And more power to you. Diversity fuels the engine, it's all good. What's not so cool is short-sheeting a new technology saying that one can achieve the same sound for 120 bucks. How do you know that?
> The Ever Evil Doctor Steel
"What's not so cool is short-sheeting a new technology saying that one can achieve the same sound for 120 bucks. How do you know that?"If you have data on frequency response, phase, noise, and distortion then please tell me where I can find it so I and others can make a rational decision. Jensen is kind enough to do that so I would expect the same from you.
The Ever Evil Doctor Steel
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