Slightly different

Posted by texanater (A) on April 26, 2007 at 13:55:57

In Reply to: Re: Consider the power supply instead posted by waters on April 26, 2007 at 11:42:22:

You are really hard pressed to beat the Technics on wow and flutter speed variation. Wow and flutter is very evident with steady tones like piano. You'll hear a wawa kind of sound. You will not find that in the Technics. Many belt driven tables use low power motors that maintain a constant speed because they don't have the power to over correct. They settle into a steady state. That steady state will usually have some level of resonance between the motor, the platter and the elasticity of the belt itself. Technics and other dd's decide rather to take direct control of the platter speed. They muscle the platter in to a perfect speed. The error on a DD table is much different. It is much smaller but at a much higher frequency. Belt driven error will usually be slow and drawn out and result in the wawa sound. DD error will be tight and fast and result in less clarity. This type of error is part of the nature of the DD system. The technics does a better job than almost all of the other DD tables, but the power supply, according to Ugly, will help it do even better. The better power supply attacks the problem of the DD table rather than cover it up.

To put it another way, the speed indicator dots illuminated by the strobe will be absolutely stable. They will not drift or move back and forth, as speed indicator dots on a belt drive may do. The Technics does this better than just about any table out there. The speed is rock solid. The argument Ugly was making was that the speed indicator dots are slightly fuzzy meaning the table is constantly searching for the perfect 33 and 1/3. The speed indicator dots would be perfectly focused on a perfect strobe and a perfect rotation. Since they are slightly fuzzy, the rotation is probably not perfect. The better power supply gives the motor better power to catch up the timing system.

Anway, the Technics is a great table and a great value. I can vouch for the arm dampener. I can't vouch for the power supply because I've never heard it, but it makes more sense to me than the arm dampener. If I had it to do over, I would go for the power supply first. Don't get me wrong, the arm dampener will easily add $150 of better sound to your table. I don't think you can go wrong either way. But Ugly has me believing the arm dampener is a bandaid.

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Topic - Denon DP- 500M or Technics SL-1210M5GSE? - waters 20:14:12 04/25/07 (11)

I _really_ wish Technics would introduce an 1700-style semi-auto again!! -nt - Bry 06:23:36 04/27/07 (0)

Definitely the Technics - Howard K 21:03:11 04/25/07 (9)

Re: Definitely the Technics - waters 22:40:52 04/25/07 (8)

Consider the power supply instead - texanater 10:54:42 04/26/07 (4)

Re: Consider the power supply instead - waters 11:42:22 04/26/07 (3)

Slightly different - texanater 13:55:57 04/26/07 (2)

Re: Slightly different - waters 20:00:07 04/26/07 (1)

The Technics doesn't need anything to be a great table - texanater 20:45:00 04/26/07 (0)

Re: Definitely the Technics - Jack1 00:11:16 04/26/07 (2)

Re: Got mine Tuesday, Tue! - Square Peg 01:36:03 04/26/07 (1)

Technics! - gariepyf 05:40:10 04/26/07 (0)

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Slightly different - texanater 13:55:57 04/26/07 (2)

Re: Slightly different - waters 20:00:07 04/26/07 (1)

The Technics doesn't need anything to be a great table - texanater 20:45:00 04/26/07 (0)

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