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RE: You think so?

Posted by Analog Scott (A) on June 27, 2023 at 10:10:47

In Reply to: RE: You think so? posted by SoundMann on June 27, 2023 at 07:43:26:

OK you are not joking. Ironically though you providing yet another example of the very thing that permeates high end audio. Beliefs in audio mythology over facts and science.

The Cars LP you speak of that you believe you can hear a digital step in the mastering chain is by all accounts an all analog mastering. Is it *possible* that Kevin Gray and everyone at Rhino involved in the making of this LP are collectively lying? It's *possible* but given the environment of multiple class action lawsuits against companies for failing to disclose a digital step in their transfer/ mastering chain it would seem like a needless risk to take by a company whose parent company literally owns that master tape to make unambiguous claims that the record was an all analog mastering. From the Rhino website:
"Cut From The Original Analog Master Tapes By Kevin Gray
Pressed On 180-Gram Heavyweight Vinyl At Optimal
Heavyweight Glossy Gatefold Jacket
Features A New Interview With Elliot Easton And Producer Roy Thomas Baker's Tracking Notes For "Good Times Roll"

Limited & Numbered To 5,000
Available Now, Exclusively At Rhino.com

ABOUT RHINO HIGH FIDELITY
Rhino is synonymous with high-quality reissues, setting the standard with award-winning audio releases for the past 45 years. Now we're raising the bar with a new premium vinyl series, Rhino High Fidelity. These high-end, limited-edition vinyl reissues of classic albums represent the pinnacle of sound and packaging.

To ensure consistent sonic excellence, Kevin Gray will cut lacquers for all Rhino Hi-Fi releases, and Optimal will press the 180-gram vinyl records. The releases boast high-quality glossy covers and "tip-on" jackets, an old-school aesthetic that evokes the golden age of vinyl."

Given the fact that the total gross revenue from this record will be $800,000.00 and that Mofi had to pay no less than $370,000.00 to settle their lawsuit. (that does not include the costs of their own council) It would be profoundly stupid for them to lie about this.

So you hear a digital step in an all analog record. Just like so many AAA devotees including Michael Fremer failed to hear digital steps that were in the transfer/mastering chain of various LPs by Mofi and other labels. AND OTHER LABELS. (more to come and that one)

Sorry it's nonsense and is counter productive. Nobody can hear a proper hi res digital step. No one. It is not physically possible.

Goober, if you are reading this, does my fight seem so unreasonable now? This is NOT an isolated opinion. It is an example of the loudest collective voice in audiophile vinyl.

As a side note. I am certainly not "anti-analog." Understanding analog and the effect it has on audio does not make one "anti-analog" OTOH I am pro fact and pro science and pro rational thought. The choice of audio mythology and anecdotal evidence derived from non controlled casual listening over objective evidence and research from an entire field of science is the opposite of being pro fact, pro science and pro rational thought.

It is the single biggest problem in the high end audio industry. It's why we get records that are made avoiding digital and is inferior as a direct result. It's why we have a market for $40K power cords that do absolutely nothing to the audio signal. It is the reason audiophiles will buy a bag of magic rocks for $300.00. It's the reason why most of the audiophile community is wallowing in inferior sound anchored in and held back by antiquated technology while ignoring and even demonizing real innovations in audio.

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