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In Reply to: And a spring is now not a spring? posted by Danny on April 4, 2002 at 19:23:03:
You say now "I use the word "spring" as in "spring/mass" that I'm NOT referring to some literal mechanical spring."Am I not calling it the right thing now Steve? Is that what I am guilty of? Or were you not calling it the right thing?
What you're guilty of is claiming that the Levitator's method of isolation is something OTHER than that of a spring/mass system. To wit:
This method of isolation is quite different from a spring/mass isolation device.
Those are your words. And that claim is simply false. As I have been saying throughout, the Levitator's method of isolation is EXACTLY that of a spring/mass system because that's precisely what it is.
"ONE LAST !@#$% TIME! I'M NOT REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO ANY LITERAL MECHANICAL SPRING! I'M REFERRING TO THAT WHICH BEHAVES AND FUNCTIONS AS A SPRING, WHETHER IT BE MAGNETIC, PNEUMATIC, HYDRAULIC, MECHANICAL, OR OTHERWISE! NOW STOP MISREPRESENTING WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING!"
I think this is the first time you have said you are not referring to a mechanical spring, and there is no need to shout. So what are you talking about now? Never mind. Don't even answer that. This is getting old fast.
The first time I said it was when I was responding to your claim which I quote above. To reiterate from two posts ago:
This method of isolation is quite different from a spring/mass isolation device.
I'm sorry, but his is simply patently incorrect. The method of isolation is EXACTLY that of a spring/mass system. Your opposing magnetic fields are the spring force which is coupled to the mass of the upper platform and the component which rests upon it and which forms a resonant system that isolates by way of behaving as a low-pass mechanical filter.
Simply because you're not using a mechanical spring does not change this fact one iota. It doesn't matter if your spring is magnetic, or hydraulic, or pneumatic, or mechanical. The method of isolation remains the same.
In this last paragraph I make it quite clear that I'm saying doesn't matter WHAT comprises the spring. A spring/mass system is a spring/mass system. And the Levitator is a spring/mass system.
I try to make something so simple it's anal, illustrating the de-coupling of the two plates by referring to one simple movement in one direction and you come back with.... "will depend upon the frequency of the vibration with respect to the resonant frequency of the spring/mass combination of the spring and top plate, blah, blah, blah...
You didn't make it simple. You made yet another erroneous and misleading claim. To wit:
Take two plates coupled with springs. Move the bottom plate forward quickly by .001". If this were happening continually it would be a lot of vibration. I guarantee you the top plate will follow that movement.
The "blah, blah, blah" part was explaining why your claim was in fact erroneous and misleading. But apparently you've no interest in whether your claims are erroneous and misleading.
You must be that guy, and there is always one out there, that will try to find fault with something or bring it down so you can feel better about yourself.
No, I'm the kind of guy who doesn't care to see people making erroneous claims and trying to pass things off as something other than what they are.
My apologies for misunderstanding your intentions in the last paragraph of your earlier post. I misread what you wrote and thought you were accusing me of being fraudulent. You were actually just trying to call me stupid. When isn't very polite, but not as out of line as the "former".
No, not stupid. Just a lack of understanding of the basic physics which govern the behavior of a product you represent which caused you to erroneously claim that it is something other than what it is.
This is the last I will post of this. Sharing of knowledge is not taking place here. I think you are more set on winning an argument. Sorry, but there is no prise for you.
No, that's not it at all. There is indeed a sharing of knowledge taking place here. You're simply not receptive to the knowledge being shared and would rather remain in denial of your own lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. You're the horse who can be led to water but can't be made to drink.
Call it whatever you like. This product really works. It's simple in design. It's not to expensive, and it's way cool too. Let what it does speak for its self and quit over analyzing it.
And at NO TIME have I said ANYTHING CONTRARY TO THAT! I'm quite content to have the product speak for itself which would be preferable to the erroneous and misleading way in which you have spoken for it.
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Follow Ups
- Re: And a spring is now not a spring? - Steve Eddy 20:01:29 04/04/02 (2)
- One last time. - Danny 14:36:26 04/05/02 (1)
- Re: One last time. - Steve Eddy 15:22:12 04/05/02 (0)
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