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Tweakers' Asylum Tweaks for systems, rooms and Do It Yourself (DIY) help. FAQ. |
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The only reason I care about defending certain tweaks - such as in my response to Richard BassNut Greene about tweaking electronics - is so that others who might realize a nice sonic benefit from those tweaks aren't discouraged from trying them.When it comes to POOGE'ing, my belief system isn't affected by skeptics. I *know* that rebuilding my speaker crossovers with quality parts has made a very enjoyable difference in their sound. I know that putting sorbothane feet under my turntable has made it virtually impervious to the periodic 30mph full stop maneuvers that my English Setter occasionally makes when playing ball in the house. Building my own power cables, replacing opamps and caps and diodes in CD players, etc. has all been both fun and sonically beneficial. (OK, except when I would make the occasional cold solder joint and take a component out of circuit...)
So do I care whether Ethan Winer or Sam Tellig or anyone else agrees that these sorts of things can make a big difference in the sound, whether or not such a difference is scientifically measurable?
No - EXCEPT to the extent that these folks may be discouraging other audiophiles from trying things that might work for them. It's good to be skeptical, but it's bad to speak from a position of perceived authority and pontificate that (for example) biwiring speakers doesn't make any difference, given that many people feel that it does.
Regarding the extremists, it's easy (and sometimes entertaining) to make fun of them. However, if someone wants to pay $6000 for an interconnect, and they earned that $6000 lawfully and responsibly, and paid taxes on it, and their family isn't neglected in some way because of the expense, you know, it's a free country. If that person hears the difference, and feels it's worth it, and would rather channel those dollars to the cable manufacturer instead of going to a lot of concerts and helping support talented musicians, or even sending a poor kid to community college for a year - that's his right. At least the money is going into the economy, and not (say) to some Colombian drug lord.
For my part, when I post about something I've done that sounds great to me, my motivation isn't to convert the skeptic. It's to suggest to someone else who may have similar gear and similar tastes that here's something he may want to try.
So, here's a proposed 4-point audiophile philosophy:
1) Skepticism, measurements, tweaking, and listening are all good and are not mutually exclusive. They all add to knowledge over time. Debate, if polite and constructive and informed and leavened with a little humility, is a good thing, because nobody has all the answers.
2) Dogma is generally bad, whether it comes from the audiophile placing tiny adhesive dots in the corner of his windowpanes and insisting that everyone do likewise, or the skeptic pooh-poohing the exact same activity and insisting that nobody do likewise.
3) Believe what you hear, not what anyone says you should hear. Enjoy what sounds good to you, because life is short and you should not live it for others. Try new approaches if and when you feel like it.
4) Good music is what it's all about, so get out from time to time and support good live musicians by attending their performances.
Now I have to shut up and go hunting for some Vishay SMD resistors for the output stage of my SACD player. I'm curious to find out whether I'll be able to hear the difference. ;-)
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Topic - Do we really care whether others "believe" in tweaking audio gear? - glennw 09:26:00 03/15/05 (45)
- If you perceive something is different, it is REAL to YOU! - lancelot 12:08:52 03/16/05 (0)
- My point was how easy it is for audiophiles to imagine differences especially with "DIY bias" - Richard BassNut Greene 09:03:21 03/16/05 (2)
- yes, too many believe "hearing differences " is easy - jcox 09:59:22 03/16/05 (0)
- Yes, the "DIY bias" exists, but is not all-encompassing. - glennw 09:56:35 03/16/05 (0)
- Yes. - Al Sekela 08:37:16 03/16/05 (2)
- I hear you. But the truth is out there. - glennw 09:24:30 03/16/05 (1)
- Re: I hear you. But the truth is out there. - Az Barber 12:10:07 03/16/05 (0)
- "pooging" !!? Refugee from that Foolish Audio Amateur Rag perhaps. - Bare 18:53:02 03/15/05 (1)
- Exactly! The heavier my equipment is, the better it sounds. ;-) - glennw 08:39:42 03/16/05 (0)
- Re: Do we really care whether others "believe" in tweaking audio gear?-Not a chance! (n/t) - Awe-d-o-file 18:17:24 03/15/05 (0)
- Re: Do we really care whether others "believe" in tweaking audio gear? - pkell44 17:50:53 03/15/05 (0)
- I didn't even bother to look at that thread above - pburke 15:32:32 03/15/05 (0)
- Aye! - Miklorsmith 11:24:10 03/15/05 (0)
- Science only advances through careful observation... - mkuller 11:00:07 03/15/05 (20)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - Steve Eddy 14:08:23 03/15/05 (18)
- A simple test: - Bruce from DC 14:40:47 03/18/05 (1)
- Re: A simple test: - Steve Eddy 09:12:33 03/20/05 (0)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - pkell44 18:08:54 03/15/05 (8)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - May Belt 07:48:23 03/16/05 (5)
- Welcome, May, and I trust that you'll weather the occasional storm here, ... - Djhymn 11:55:33 03/16/05 (0)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - Steve Eddy 10:13:43 03/16/05 (0)
- Measurements can be another form of bias, just like beliefs, attitudes and expectations bias sighted auditions - Richard BassNut Greene 09:38:03 03/16/05 (2)
- Re: Measurements can be another form of bias - chris_w 05:23:56 03/19/05 (0)
- Regarding bias - E-Stat 13:16:12 03/16/05 (0)
- I think you are right about "changes in air pressure" being the root of what we should measure - Norm 07:03:50 03/16/05 (0)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - Steve Eddy 21:27:02 03/15/05 (0)
- Minor corrections… - David Aiken 17:11:20 03/15/05 (3)
- Gentlemen another problem is. - chris_w 05:35:29 03/19/05 (0)
- Re: Minor corrections… - Steve Eddy 21:52:02 03/15/05 (1)
- Re: Minor corrections… - David Aiken 23:38:23 03/15/05 (0)
- Hey, no denial here. - glennw 14:55:43 03/15/05 (2)
- Re: Hey, no denial here. - Steve Eddy 15:53:39 03/15/05 (1)
- But I think we *do* learn from correlations. - glennw 08:32:18 03/16/05 (0)
- Re: Science only advances through careful observation... - Dan Banquer 11:17:59 03/15/05 (0)
- There was a time when a majority of doctors rejected the germ theory - tonemaniac 10:11:15 03/15/05 (8)
- What penis pills dont work ? - chris_w 00:54:15 03/17/05 (0)
- The biggest problem are facts that contradict supposed common sense.... - Thorsten 05:10:00 03/16/05 (2)
- Yes, that cable argument never made sense to me. - glennw 08:10:03 03/16/05 (0)
- Re: The biggest problem are facts that contradict supposed common sense.... - Wally 08:02:43 03/16/05 (0)
- I really enjoyed reading that! - glennw 15:11:17 03/15/05 (1)
- Re: I really enjoyed reading that! - Pkell44 18:17:40 03/15/05 (0)
- You mean cats aren't the agents of the devil? nt - h_h 13:13:18 03/15/05 (1)
- uhhhh, I'll get back to you about that... - tonemaniac 20:40:33 03/15/05 (0)
- Bravo!........nt - markrohr 09:57:28 03/15/05 (0)
- Good post. (nt) - ChrisVH 09:44:00 03/15/05 (0)