In Reply to: RE: I just found MWE's original comments not untypical of certain types. . . posted by rbolaw on March 27, 2017 at 09:41:03:
And I seem to be having trouble making my point, which is that many Shostakovitch fans attempt to excuse his musical banality by bringing in all sorts of non-musical justifications for it. (Ooh! What courage he had, thumbing his nose at Stalin!) Of course, I'm not saying that ALL of Shostakovitch's music is worthless and banal, but the proportion is just too high IMHO. Stalin should have sent him to Siberia - maybe the sojourn would have improved his style when he got out. ;-)
Re Madeline and my interest in babe musicians: she'll often cut the discussion short by asking, "Do you REALLY think I'd be interested in this at all?". Yup, she's a Debbie Downer about babe musicians alright.
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Follow Ups
- Sure - but banality is banality, even if it's intentional and cynical - Chris from Lafayette 11:18:14 03/27/17 (24)
- Yes, around here at least, the ocean water is cold in the winter. - rbolaw 11:47:07 03/27/17 (14)
- Of course - Chris from Lafayette 16:51:16 03/27/17 (13)
- OK, but, - rbolaw 09:00:13 03/28/17 (12)
- I agree about Lieutenant Kije - except that that's by PROKOFIEV, not Shostakovitch - Chris from Lafayette 14:33:14 03/28/17 (10)
- Yes! I keep confusing Lt. Kije with The Nose. - rbolaw 16:49:44 03/28/17 (9)
- My favorite piece by Shostakovitch is "Song of the Forests"! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 18:19:35 03/28/17 (8)
- Now I KNOW you're yanking our chains... - MWE 18:41:58 03/28/17 (7)
- Hey, man - you questioning my taste? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 19:43:18 03/28/17 (6)
- Yuk, yuk. - rbolaw 07:32:03 03/29/17 (0)
- Hee hee. nt. - MWE 19:50:22 03/28/17 (4)
- But wait! If Song of the Forests is as bad as "everyone" says it is. . . - Chris from Lafayette 19:55:08 03/29/17 (3)
- Ugh. Hideous cover. - rbolaw 09:20:21 03/30/17 (2)
- Hey, man - that's a proletariat cover with not a trace of formalism! - Chris from Lafayette 13:36:20 03/30/17 (1)
- You are CRACKING me UP!! - MWE 14:19:40 03/30/17 (0)
- Most eloquently put, RBO. nt. - MWE 12:40:37 03/28/17 (0)
- Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:45:13 03/27/17 (5)
- IMHO it's NOT OK when Mahler does it - Chris from Lafayette 16:37:46 03/27/17 (0)
- RE: Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - rbolaw 12:43:10 03/27/17 (3)
- RE: Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - Ivan303 18:33:06 03/27/17 (0)
- Still to this day: Fischer has no interest in recording Mahler's 8th. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 12:46:33 03/27/17 (1)
- RE: "Fischer has no interest" -- I Have Similar re Listening to It, and - goldenthal 20:18:09 04/01/17 (0)
- RE: Sure - but banality is banality, even if it's intentional and cynical - MWE 11:43:33 03/27/17 (2)
- Anyone who sit thru Mahler's Rondo Burlesque or the Friar Jacque on the double bass should get what Shosty - jdaniel@jps.net 12:43:51 03/27/17 (1)
- Well, those examples are certainly NOT Mahler at his finest [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:39:23 03/27/17 (0)