RE: Josef Krips

Posted by learsfool (A) on November 6, 2015 at 21:56:24

In Reply to: Josef Krips posted by TGR on November 6, 2015 at 16:15:40:

My first reaction on reading your post is that you are greatly underestimating the reputation of Krips. At least among musicians, he has always been very well respected! And yes, he was well known for his Mahler.

This next comment may irritate some audiophiles, but Krips is a great example of a conductor who they always underestimate simply because they ignore anything that isn't really well recorded. Abbado, one of the all time greats in pretty much every orchestral musician's opinion, is another whose reputation is much lower among audiophiles than it is among concert goers in general, for the same reason - he simply wasn't that well recorded for much of his career, so audiophiles blew him off because they didn't like the sound of his recordings. The opposite is sometimes true as well. It is fascinating how many vinyl collectors worship the recordings of some conductors simply because they were well recorded in the "golden age" of vinyl, but really they weren't that great. I'll refrain from naming names, as there were of course many great conductors in that era as well.

Incidentally, you are not far off with your remarks about traditional Viennese composers - Mahler is, after all, a direct descendant of theirs, musically speaking, including the Viennese part even, for much of his career. Usually anyone who is well grounded in the First Viennese school should do just fine with Mahler as well.

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Topic - Josef Krips - TGR 16:15:40 11/06/15 (15)

However, there were some VERY well recorded Krips albums - Chris from Lafayette 14:42:35 11/08/15 (2)

Ah, yes, the Stravinsky/Strauss - TGR 08:10:27 11/09/15 (1)

Oops! (I've been in similar situations myself!) [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:22:37 11/09/15 (0)

I always find it gratifying when people take my advice - John Marks 10:09:17 11/07/15 (0)

The Excellent Josef Krips - Newey 21:59:14 11/06/15 (3)

RE: The Excellent Josef Krips - garrod 08:04:55 11/10/15 (2)

His Schubert 9: one of the few SXLs I've found in Cali. (Would have preferred an Ansermet.) - jdaniel@jps.net 10:32:19 11/10/15 (1)

That one is excellent. nt - rbolaw 20:10:13 11/10/15 (0)

RE: Josef Krips - learsfool 21:56:24 11/06/15 (4)

Oops - sorry! I meant to respond separately to your post here. . . - Chris from Lafayette 14:46:52 11/08/15 (2)

Yes, I can think of at least two famous Krips series from the golden age - rbolaw 10:52:19 11/09/15 (1)

RE: Yes, I can think of at least two famous Krips series from the golden age - pbarach 14:30:01 11/09/15 (0)

RE: Josef Krips - rbolaw 05:45:27 11/07/15 (0)

RE: Josef Krips - pbarach 18:16:11 11/06/15 (1)

For me, what makes this recording treasurable is Wunderlich's incandescent first movement - John Marks 10:07:39 11/07/15 (0)

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RE: Josef Krips - learsfool 21:56:24 11/06/15 (4)

Oops - sorry! I meant to respond separately to your post here. . . - Chris from Lafayette 14:46:52 11/08/15 (2)

Yes, I can think of at least two famous Krips series from the golden age - rbolaw 10:52:19 11/09/15 (1)

RE: Yes, I can think of at least two famous Krips series from the golden age - pbarach 14:30:01 11/09/15 (0)

RE: Josef Krips - rbolaw 05:45:27 11/07/15 (0)

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