In Reply to: "It's staggering to consider that nobody's ever challenged that academic view. EXCEPT ME." posted by jdaniel@jps.net on October 29, 2015 at 21:06:20:
Limited. It really is. Don't feel diminished. You can't, and don't have to know everything.
I know this stuff cause I canvassed and read it since 1972. I can see just from your posts that you don't have knowledge in this particular corner. Your errors range from being a bit off base to way off base. I'm too tired to type up a full response, but just quickly:
>> ignoring their more prescient and insightful peers in order to fancy yourself the savior of Romantic/post-Romantic Art?<<
Not doing that. Those "prescient" peers - during what? The latter 20th cent? Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how hard the serialist/modernists ruled and how comprehensive their influence was?
There's no point in belaboring this point with me. The published record is all there, in tons of books and articles which they produced.
>>There are--and were--plenty of "academics" who are and were quite fond and supportive of artists of those eras.* <<
Off of the point again. Yes, there always were devoted supporters of composers. That's NOT what I was talking about. READ MY STINKING POSTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. I've had to make my same point about the 5th time to you already. I was talking about the way the musicologists/academics/critics took apart the Romantic sonata. And, from that disembowelment, the proceeded to disparage the composers and eventually the whole period. Go back a read my post. If you still have questions, ask.
Done with typing for tonight.
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- Your Knowledge Of Critical & Academic 20th Cent Trends - Newey 22:40:11 10/29/15 (6)
- Sigh. You said, "EXCEPT ME." (Your caps.) Really? Except you? - jdaniel@jps.net 07:48:18 10/30/15 (5)
- This Is Like Teaching A Slow Learner - Newey 20:00:26 10/30/15 (1)
- Indeed.... - jdaniel@jps.net 07:20:03 10/31/15 (0)
- You Sound Just Like A Holocaust Denier - Newey 19:23:49 10/30/15 (2)
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