In Reply to: Illuminating posted by Newey on October 28, 2015 at 21:30:57:
concluded that the Romantics had corrupted music...."You go on:
"It's staggering to consider that nobody's ever challenged that academic view. EXCEPT ME."
Wow. Saviour of the art world!
It's a rookie move to assume that Romantic composers' premieres received only hostile reviews/critiques. It's like claiming that Furtwangler never sped up the music he conducted.
Moreover--and deliciously-ironic--is that the conservative, and/or negative critics of the times were more concerned with the immorality associated with Romantic Art; not necessarily the music itself. You also neglect to consider critics who changed their personal views over the years or even months.
Took about 5 minutes to find three examples which are contrary to your claims:
On Wagner's Tristan in London: "Of all the articles to come out of the period leading up to the premiere, the one that stands out as the most overwhelmingly positive is 'Tristan and Isolde An Analysis of Richard Wagner's Music-Drama" by Frederick Corder." It was published in the Musical Times and Singing Class Circular on 1 March 1882."
On Strauss Salome premier in NYC: "STRAUSS'S "SALOME" THE FIRST TIME HERE; A Remarkable Performance at the Metropolitan. MME. FREMSTAD AS SALOME Superb Impersonations by Messrs. Burrian and Van Rooy -- Alfred Hertz Wins New Laurels. -- New York Times 23 Jan 1907"
On Mahler's 1st: "Mahler conducted this fourth performance [of his 1st Symphony] on 16th March 1896 in Berlin. The composer and music critic Ernst Otto Nodnagel, approved of these major revisions which addressed previous criticisms he had raised in his review of the 2nd performance (published in the Berliner Tageblatt and Magazin f
Edits: 10/29/15
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- "The old school scholars and critcs (sic) - all of them, to a man - with out a SINGLE EXCEPTION - jdaniel@jps.net 08:47:08 10/29/15 (9)
- **WRONG WRONG **DING DONG** WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG - Newey 20:45:49 10/29/15 (8)
- "It's staggering to consider that nobody's ever challenged that academic view. EXCEPT ME." - jdaniel@jps.net 21:06:20 10/29/15 (7)
- Your Knowledge Of Critical & Academic 20th Cent Trends - Newey 22:40:11 10/29/15 (6)
- Sigh. You said, "EXCEPT ME." (Your caps.) Really? Except you? - jdaniel@jps.net 07:48:18 10/30/15 (5)
- This Is Like Teaching A Slow Learner - Newey 20:00:26 10/30/15 (1)
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