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Now that we've been at it a year, time for review and, later on, a spot quiz.Those of you who paid attention (and plan to graduate) now realize we only listen to DEAD CONDUCTORS. The reason is that dead ones consistently outswing the current live crop. Of course, not all Dead Conductors are equal. Some are much more equal than others, and the most equal are the BIG FIVE (also known as the General Music Directors of Europe, see famous photo of the quintet together at the Salzburg Festival 1933). The BIG FIVE are reliable first choices for their individual special repetoire, and they don't overlap much. So remember:
WILHELM FURTWAENGLER: best years 1937, 1943/44, 1951. Furtie is the Sultan of Swat in the German repertoire--Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, Mozart, with surprising depth in Tchaikowsky and bonbons.
About 90% great performances, tied withARTURO TOSCANINI: best years 1929-36 (NYPO), 1938-39 (NBC), 1940/41 (Philadelphia), 1951-53 (NBC in Carnegie Hall). The Italian Stallion sometimes pushes too hard, but unbeatable in Brahms,Puccini, Verdi, much Beethoven, and moderns (Debussy, Respighi). 90% great performances, putting him and Furtie safely ahead of
BRUNO WALTER: best years 1936 (Vienna), 1940-52 (NYPO), 1958-62 (Columbia SO). 80% great performances marred only by a tendency towards sentimentality and slower tempi with age. Definitive Mahler, Strauss, Dvorak, Smetana, great Bruckner, Beethoven, Brahms. Tied with
ERICH KLEIBER: best years 1920's, 1948-54 (Vienna, Amsterdam). 80% great, only the last year of career less than stellar. Left us the best Mozart Figaro (1954), many immortal performances of German music. A big step ahead of
OTTO KLEMPERER: with 60% great performances, least of the BIG FIVE primarily because most work recorded in his old age, when tempi slowed ridiculously in some music. Best years 1920's/30's, 1952 (Amsterdam), 1959, 1964. A firebrand and modern music enthusiast in his youth, concentrated exclusively on standard repertoire after taking over London's Philharmonia Orchestra.
Next time: the second rank!! (Warning: densely populated!). Homework assignment: buy everything you can find by the BIG FIVE (note best year recommendations), test on Friday.
Big B
Edits: 80/61/01
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Topic - Dead Conductors School - Brian Cheney 12:09:04 05/01/00 (50)
- Hey Brian - Jorge F 12:19:16 05/02/00 (1)
- favorite living conductors - jlee 20:21:02 05/02/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors Memorial Foundation - Jim Willis 01:05:33 05/02/00 (0)
- It's a miracle that Klemperer did as well as he did........ - Tom B. 19:27:49 05/01/00 (3)
- Re: It's a miracle that Klemperer did as well as he did........ - Rob 02:54:02 05/02/00 (2)
- Re: It's a miracle that Klemperer did as well as he did........ - Tom B. 07:54:14 05/02/00 (1)
- Re: It's a miracle that Klemperer did as well as he did........ - Rob 08:24:49 05/02/00 (0)
- Funny, was watching the "Great Conductors" video today... - Binayak Bhattacharyya 18:05:01 05/01/00 (4)
- Re: Funny, was watching the "Great Conductors" video today... - Rob 03:03:43 05/02/00 (1)
- Re: Funny, was watching the "Great Conductors" video today... - Binayak Bhattacharyya 19:59:56 05/02/00 (0)
- Binayak.....have you seen the 2nd video in that series? - Tom B. 19:12:04 05/01/00 (1)
- Yup.. - Binayak Bhattacharyya 19:56:06 05/02/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - jlee 17:38:21 05/01/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Pat D 15:55:30 05/01/00 (0)
- And the second and third tiers: - BobH 15:47:47 05/01/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Dr. T 13:48:36 05/01/00 (1)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Rob 15:01:17 05/01/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Jorge F 12:59:49 05/01/00 (2)
- Or Monteux (n/t) - SE 17:05:13 05/01/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Pat D 15:50:32 05/01/00 (0)
- Don't you sometimes wake in the middle of the night... - patrick S 12:49:58 05/01/00 (13)
- Okay, what have you done with patrickS? - The Real Dave 04:39:16 05/02/00 (0)
- Karajan - Ears 13:04:02 05/01/00 (3)
- Karajan - patrick S 13:09:51 05/01/00 (2)
- Re: Karajan - Dr. T 18:45:31 05/01/00 (1)
- Re: Karajan - patrick S 03:52:46 05/02/00 (0)
- 'Most'? Take it easy... (nt) - Jorge F 12:57:13 05/01/00 (7)
- Don't take it personally, Jorge... - patrick S 13:03:10 05/01/00 (6)
- A hypothetical question - The Real Dave 04:41:04 05/02/00 (4)
- Dave, we were talking about CONDUCTORS. (nt) - patrick S 04:52:35 05/02/00 (3)
- Re: Dave, we were talking about CONDUCTORS. - The Real Dave 05:06:02 05/02/00 (2)
- And there is no truth to the rumor that his last words were, "Ha! You call THAT fortissimo?! (nt) - patrick S 05:21:37 05/02/00 (1)
- ROTFL - Rob 09:54:53 05/02/00 (0)
- Re: Don't take it personally, Jorge... - Rob 03:13:30 05/02/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Rob 12:32:27 05/01/00 (1)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - Rob 12:35:13 05/01/00 (0)
- Re: Dead Conductors School - patrick S 12:23:52 05/01/00 (0)
- What about... - Dave 12:23:41 05/01/00 (12)
- If you consider . . . - BobH 15:34:29 05/01/00 (11)
- sigh <nt> - Rob 15:35:54 05/01/00 (10)
- NOTE! SHORTEST POSTING BY ROB EVER!!! (NT) - BobH 15:48:57 05/01/00 (9)
- and that moves..... - revjac 16:35:51 05/01/00 (8)
- Re: and that moves..... - Rob 21:00:39 05/01/00 (6)
- Re: and that moves..... - BobH 21:53:57 05/01/00 (5)
- Re: and that moves..... - jlee 01:43:59 05/02/00 (4)
- Glad to. I'm surpised anybody asked. - BobH 11:13:12 05/02/00 (3)
- Re: Glad to. I'm surpised anybody asked. - jlee 13:26:28 05/02/00 (0)
- Re: Glad to. I'm surpised anybody asked. - Rob 11:19:41 05/02/00 (1)
- We agree!!!!! - BobH 11:54:40 05/02/00 (0)
- Hear!Hear! Rob ROOLZ!!! (nt) - BobH 16:40:02 05/01/00 (0)