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In Reply to: Two Brahms Four posted by SPL on June 9, 2000 at 21:02:44:
I've heard the Karajan and the Furtwaengler, but not the Wand or the Stokowski.Toscanini sets the standard in the Brahms Fourth, either in the 1951 Carnegie Hall/NBC or the Philharmonia live sessions of two years later. The discipline, simplicity of phrasing, and propulsive power are beyond compare. Toscanini is the only conductor to maintain the required steady tempo in the finale, without which it loses its power. Furtwaengler cannot resist a different tempo for each variation and kills the effect entirely, Karajan is almost as bad.
Sound on both Toscanini performances is excellent for their vintage. The NBC cycle (#1 is equally good, you can go elsewhere for #2 and #3) has never been out of the catalog, and the Philharmonia recordings appear and disappear on various labels (currently OP).
One should remember the Maestro was 17 when Brahms completed his final symphony; Toscanini became a conductor two years later, still a teenager. The Fourth was "modern music" to him and his Brahms was always "without the beard". Treasurable stuff.
Big B
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