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Went diagonal. Wow, what a difference; in my apartment anyhow.
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Must it be a 45 degree split, because I think I have seen a picture of "uneven" split in a longish rectangular room?And also any comments about toe-in of speakers?
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the easiest way to accomplish this is to work with a selected diagonal of the room. i would chose a full corner with no doorways and use opennings behind the listening position for energy release. the speakers should be placed on an imaginery line approximately 3 feet to the right and left (tweeter to tweeter) of the diagonal and at right angles to it. make sure that the back of the speakers is a minimum of 12 inches from the wall behind it. i usually have them 15 to 18 inches away. then use the merlin alignment tool to set the toe angle. works like a charm with a minimum of room treatment. i know it looks odd but small squarish rooms can be made to sound amazingly good.
good luck.
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When you say "selected diagonal" does this mean from corner to corner, thereby suggesting an asymetrical placement in a rectangular room (and not a 45 degree mirror image)?Thanks much for the information you are providing on this, including distance from the wall, which would have been my next question had you not already answered it.
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in a square room the set up would be symetrical because you are listening down the diagonal.
in a rectangular room and one that is only slightly off square, the set up would not be symetrical because we are again listening down the diagonal.
if you go to www.merlinmusic.com and look at our show set up in vegas (in the picture gallery) you will see that the set up is not sysmetrical because the room is 21 by 24.
true retangular rooms would use a conventional short wall or long wall set up.
for my speakers i prefer the short wall as a rule due to my recommended listening distance and because you can propagate a longer bass wavelegnth.
hope i got this to you in time for you to see it.
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Looks great.....Perhaps you may want to try out some foam behind the speakers and against the walls? Might sound even better....
Cheers,
Thanks Sordidman. I'm decorative deficient, you bet. You'd think a 46 year old could at least hang a poster or something.
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Sordid Humor poster from my CD?
is this the real me, or a mere facsimile?
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How did you have your set up before? Could you explain what the differences are from your previous set up. Thanks for any info.
I was walking out of my place yesterday morning and thought to myself, " you really need to move that speaker before someone knocks it over. " Had them along the short wall; I'd tried the long wall before, but wasn't happy with that. While looking around my place trying to decide where to put everything I recalled Bobby, and others suggesting diagonal. So, I thought what the hey, and tried it.I couldn't believe the difference. It's almost like there aren't speakers at all, just a wall of sound. Deep sound, with a large sweetspot. Bass is so much better, my sub is almost turned off.
I just did it yesterday, so I'm waiting a few days to make a final determination, but I do believe I'm sold. It's almost like wearing headphones.
BTW, do you see a pic, or the dreaded red X?
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http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lutesk58/detail?.dir=6621&.dnm=c882.jpg&.src=ph
Can you try pasting the address into your browser?
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Try using the "a href" HTML tag to link the pic's page into your post for websites that do not allow hotlinks.You effectively minimized the room nodes. Room treatments (or placement changes) can make a big difference for sure.
would work even better if the gear and stand were off to a side but that is not practical with an integrated as you cannot run a long interconnect to the amp.
try something on the tv and table in front of you to see how much they reflect energy.
the left hand speaker could use something to absorb reflections beside and slightly in front of the speaker. and if the stand was gone maybe a tube trap and corner tune in the corner would really make the whole thing as good as can be. but i am sure you'll keep it as is because the walls do not reflect energy back to the seating position. and you can create longer bass wavelegnths down the diagonal and the increased distance to wall behind the speaker enhances depth.
good stuff.
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:-) :-) :-) ;)
Happy Listening,
Rich Brkich
Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
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Are the plants real? If so, who waters them - especially the one between the amps? You must not have pets or small kids, if there is a difference.
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The plants are indeed real. They are rented (yes, you read correctly - rented) for the period of the show (the picture was of Merlin's 2004 CES show suite). A florist drops them off at the room the day before the show starts and picks them up at the end of the show... no watering necessary!
Happy Listening,
Rich Brkich
Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
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vegitation helps for a number of reasons.
i have been using a set-up like this since san francisco, 1997. when ever you have an almost square room, this is the only way to go.
try to keep them about 6 feet appart and listen at 9 1/2 to 10 feet and the the bass will be surprise you.
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Great info. Everything I wanted to hear. I look forward to trying this set up.BTW, no pic or X.
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