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Model: Denon DL103R with Van Den Hull retip Category: Phono Cartridge Suggested Retail Price: $249 + aprox $300 for retip Description: A retipped 103R Manufacturer URL: Denon Manufacturer URL: Denon
Review by SirAnthony ( A ) on August 02, 2006 at 14:06:16
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This review will be short. I don't like to banter on about how the guns of navarone sound etc. Like that really means anything the the reader. I wanted to try the 103R because so many people hold it in high regard.
What I thought of the 103R in stock form: Very relaxed sounding with nice midrage and good bass. Sorely lacking in detail due to the conical stylus. It has it's charms but I couldn't live with this cart for long. It just wasn't doing it for me. So I sent it off to Van Den Hull for retip.
What I think about the 103R after retip: The retip took over a month and a half. Something to remember if you decide to send yours in. It takes awhile. When I first recieved the retiped 103R I was floored at the difference. The main difference being the level of detail. There is no comparison to the conical. I think the level of detail is up there with far more expensive carts. I don't think the cart loses it's character either. It pretty much sounds the same but with alot more detail and refinement. You hear everything in the groove. There is a gain in treble retreival but it's not too bright as some have suggested. There is some loss in bass. You lose some boom but gain more definition. I atribute this to having less VTF with fine line stylus. Listening to Mark Knopler Shangri-la, his vocals have a wonderful texture. The overall sound is really good. If your a 103R fan I don't think you can go wrong with this upgrade. It is well worth it. I don't see how you could get this sound any other way.
Now I will mention the down side to the 103R. These things aren't the fault of the retip in any way. After living with this cart for over a month I can now say what I really like and dislike about it. The strength of the 103R is it's vocal presentation and a very wide sound stage. Some people might say "it's very tube like". I think thats misrepresentaion of tubes. Tubes can sound that way. They can also sound very detailed and dynamic. The drawback to the 103R is it's lack of dynamics. It has a very wide sound stage but also a very flat one. It almost sounds compressed. There is a lack of excitement to the sound. If you like a very relaxed but detailed sound this is the cart you want. I really like this cart for sober critical listening. But when I want to really get into the music and enjoy it for several hours, the 10x5 is much better suited to the task. The 10x5 has a focus to is that reaches into your ears and pulls you into the music. Some people my not like this. They may think it's too anylitilcle. But once you get used to the 10x5 nothing else will do. My next step is a more detailed version of the 10x5. Any reccomendations are welcome.
Product Weakness: Lacks dynamics and focus Product Strengths: Vocal presentation and a wide detailed soundstage
Associated Equipment for this Review: Amplifier: Modified ARC D76A Preamplifier (or None if Integrated): Modified AI Modulus 2D Sources (CDP/Turntable): MMF7 with headshell weight etc Speakers: Axiom M80's Cables/Interconnects: DIY silver and copper Music Used (Genre/Selections): Rock, Pop, Jazz Type of Audition/Review: Product Owner
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Topic - REVIEW: Denon Denon DL103R with Van Den Hull retip Phono Cartridge - SirAnthony 14:06:16 08/2/06 ( 25)
- One upgrade possibilty. - jsm 11:52:26 08/3/06 ( 0)
couple few questions - OMalley 18:54:10 08/2/06 ( 1)
- Re: couple few questions - SirAnthony 03:39:40 08/3/06 ( 0)
Yesssssssssssss ! waiting for this (nt) - Jagdeep 17:59:00 08/2/06 ( 0)
I got my 10X5 before the 103. - Dave Pogue 17:28:06 08/2/06 ( 4)
- Re: I got my 10X5 before the 103. - SirAnthony 03:41:16 08/3/06 ( 1)
- Re: I got my 10X5 before the 103. - analogmaniac 04:16:28 08/3/06 ( 0)
Found the same to be true with a 103r vs. DV-20xlo. - powermatic 19:35:24 08/2/06 ( 1)
- 10X5 vs. DL-103 - Dave Pogue 04:43:35 08/3/06 ( 0)
Thanks for the report - a couple of things surprise me though - Paul Tobin 17:27:15 08/2/06 ( 0)
Hmm... let's look at the rest of your system - J Harris 16:43:35 08/2/06 ( 2)
- Re: Hmm... let's look at the rest of your system - SirAnthony 03:52:24 08/3/06 ( 0)
Re: Hmm... let's look at the rest of your system - blake 19:28:42 08/2/06 ( 0)
I've been thinking of getting one- - newyorkp7 16:17:20 08/2/06 ( 2)
- Re: I've been thinking of getting one- - SirAnthony 03:23:07 08/3/06 ( 0)
103, children & Dynavectors - HiFiOd 18:51:50 08/2/06 ( 1)
- Re: 103, children & Dynavectors - SirAnthony 03:26:32 08/3/06 ( 0)
Reading that just makes me want a Dyna 10x5 even more - NuWave 15:41:52 08/2/06 ( 0)
Great review, but I love hearing details about the train roaring down the tracks.... - tubesforever 15:10:32 08/2/06 ( 3)
- Re: Great review, but I love hearing details about the train roaring down the tracks.... - SirAnthony 03:31:56 08/3/06 ( 2)
- Re: Great review, but I love hearing details about the train roaring down the tracks.... - DKG 10:21:07 08/3/06 ( 1)
- But it does have the glorious thread inserts. - Plinko 13:53:00 08/3/06 ( 0)
Good review. - olddude55 14:54:23 08/2/06 ( 1)
- Re: Good review. - SirAnthony 03:34:18 08/3/06 ( 0)
Great review - thanks! - Pete Fowler 14:54:09 08/2/06 ( 1)
- Re: Your welcome. NT - SirAnthony 03:36:14 08/3/06 ( 0)